Mladen, For my own part, personal issues have forced me to withdraw from all but the most immediately essential work activities. Unfortunately, that leaves the ORACLE-L list as a seldom-indulged pleasure, similar to Oracle users groups including my own beloved RMOUG. I've been on this list for a couple years, and have peaked and valleyed over that time in terms of participation -- I suspect the same is true of everyone. I really hope you'll all be here as well when I can pay attention again. For the meantime, I'll just lurk, browse infrequently, and delete messages en masse. As a famous general once remarked, "I shall return". But not right now... Best wishes to all... -Tim on 10/20/05 11:49 PM, Mladen Gogala at gogala@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > I am receiving 65 messages per day, very few interesting ones among them. Most > of > these messages are sheer clutter, usually saying things like "here is my > query, why > is it slow". The net result is the fact that this list is becoming less and > less > useful for me. I seldomly see Tanel Poder, Nuno Suoto, Mogens Norgaard, Tim > Gorman, > Cary Millsap or Jonathan Lewis. Personally, I am willing to respond to > questions and > I frequently do so. If this list becomes a pile of worthless spam that > needlessly > wastes my bandwidth then I'll do the same thing as Nuno Suoto: unsubscribe and > switch > to c.d.o.server. I am aware that the most of the list will breathe a sigh of > relief > if that happens but I am reluctant to give up a great tool that this list once > was, > just yet. So, I fully intend to continue decreasing what I see as a worthless > junk by > all means at my disposal, unless told otherwise by the administrator. If that > happens, > I'll simply unsubscribe, after 10 years of presence on this list. > What gets me started are questions that can easily be answered by reading > manuals. > I don't believe that this is an online manual. To keep the peace, please > respect me > and do not post trivial questions. Then I will respect you and will not post > replies > which belong to this group as much as the trivial questions that instigated > them. > Namely, I do consider rude expecting other people to do your homework for you. > In P2P > world, people that do not contribute but just pump out stuff are called > "leeches". > Frequently asking trivial questions that are answered in the literature is > usually a > sign of similar parasitic attitude and unwillingness to invest even minimal > personal > effort. I am a member of this list for 10 years, much longer then most of the > people > asking trivial questions. I shall not waste my time any longer if 95% of the > topics are > started by questions that can trivially be answered by a minimal personal > effort. So far, > I am not willing to give up. This may change soon. It's up to you. On my part, > I can > only promise to put in additional effort and imagination to thinly veil the > RTFM phrase, > much to the delight of the target. -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l