Re: OT: Business Objects
- From: "Mark Strickland" <strickland.mark@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 15:55:16 -0700
As Charles mentioned, we are a BO shop (at least we were...the sub-prime
meltdown has gotten us...I'm not trolling for a job...YET...but if/when I
do, my resume says I'm doing 10g RAC, Data Guard (both logical and
physical), RMAN, and LogMiner and I count myself as a pretty good SQL
tuner. Yes, I'm certified FWIW). I've really only been working on the
backend of BO (my group works in the bowels of the company) -- installing
and patching and watching for expensive SQL. Our used-to-be BO
administrator used-to-be an Oracle Apps DBA and she stayed on top of making
sure that end-users weren't doing horrible things. I think that as long as
you keep an eye on expensive SQL, you won't have too much heartburn. We had
the extra challenge of having to use our Production database for both OLTP
and Analytics, so it was even more important that I hover over the SQL
coming from BO.
Regarding other resources, I've used the Business Objects Board and the
Business Objects website to find solutions to problems. You should learn
how to use the various Business Objects logs and management GUIs as soon as
you can.
Still Employed in Seattle as of This Minute,
Mark Strickland
On 4/30/07, Charles Schultz <sacrophyte@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I know Mark Strickland is using Business Objects, but not sure about who
else. As a DBA, I often get requests to tune BO-generated queries, and so
far they have all been fairly complex and ugly. Since I do not know much
about BO, I do not know if the blame for suboptimal queries lies more with
the product or with the fine folks using it; I am a little biased in
thinking that the product is simply lacking, but I reserve the right to be
wrong. =)
So first, my obvious question: have you in the user community found other
tools that can generate "better" sql, one that exercises a little more
intelligence about the back-end database?
And next, assuming that perhaps the developers merely need a little
knowledge transfer about BO, what BO Forums would you suggest?
Just for a little background, the developers are writing reports against a
copy of an ERP datastore (SCT Banner in this case). I have been able to
introduce them to analytics which is catching on slowly (BO does not
inherently support analytics, does it?). The datastore is not a "warehouse"
per se, in that the data has not gone through any ETL and there are no
enhancing fact tables or star schemas outside what is provided for the OLTP
application. Some extra indexes and a view or two, but that is it. 10gR2 for
those who would ask. =) Not sure about the version of BO.
TIA
--
Charles Schultz
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