Hi Gorbachev You said : I want to change INSERT to CTAS, but it requires some efforts to amend the script. I assume that CTAS would be > more performant for IOT since it will create index as temporary segment in table's tablespace and then just amend dictionary (object definition + hwm). So I expect to eleminate UNDO generation, reduce temporary space requirements, reduce redo, and.... well, boost performance. ----- Yes. CTAS is far better for IOTs then Insert with append hint..In fact, I just converted a heap partitioned table (4 billion rows or so) to compressed partitioned IOT using this method. Worked great. Idea is to create another IOT table exactly same as original table partition and exchange partitions. -- Create a table from the old partition CREATE TABLE ilp_seg_1 ( ITEM_SET_ID , LOCATION_ID , PERIOD_ID , SEGMENT_TYPE , RCPT_AMT , RCPT_UNITS , SLS_AMT , SLS_UNITS , constraint ilp_seg_1_pk primary key (item_set_id, location_id, period_id, segment_type) ) ORGANIZATION INDEX COMPRESS 2 NOPARALLEL tablespace ilp_data_01 nologging as select /*+ parallel (ilp 4) */ * from ab4p.item_location_periods_tbl_dec10 ilp where segment_type=1 / -- Exchange it.. -- With validation clause is to avoid a bug in 8i. 'Without validation' clause is using an highly inefficient SQL. alter table item_location_periods_tbl exchange partition ITEM_LOC_PER_SEG_1 with table ilp_seg_1 including indexes with validation / 8.1.7.4 64 bit + one-off patch for compressed index bug, in Sun 2.8 Thanks Riyaj "Re-yas" Shamsudeen Certified Oracle DBA -----Original Message----- From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alexander Gorbachev Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 9:41 AM To: ORACLE-L Subject: INSERT versus CTAS Hi, What are the differencies between "create ... table as select" and "create table" + "insert /*+ parallel(...) append(...) */ into" from performance point of view? I am interested in various tables: - non-partitioned - partitioned - non pratitioned IOT - partitioned IOT Currently, I use create + insert with parallel append hints. It works reasonable fast for us - we are able to fill 100+ Gb of data within 1,5 hour. However, inserting in partitioned IOT's is quite different. There are few problems: - slow - append doesn't work (and, consequently, parallel). - lot's of redo (coz no append). - lot's of undo (I guess because no append as well, since with append you need only revert HWM) and, consequently, ora-1555. - lot's of temporary space required. We are able to overcome some problems iterating through each partition, but it's not a clean solution and performance is still far from what we target. I want to change INSERT to CTAS, but it requires some efforts to amend the script. I assume that CTAS would be more performant for IOT since it will create index as temporary segment in table's tablespace and then just amend dictionary (object definition + hwm). So I expect to eleminate UNDO generation, reduce temporary space requirements, reduce redo, and.... well, boost performance. Any comments/links are appreciated. It's 9.2.0.5 on 64 bit HP-UX. Thanks in advance. Alex -- Best regards, Alex Gorbachev -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l -- Attached file included as plaintext by Ecartis -- -- Desc: Signature The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that your access is unauthorized, and any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message including any attachments is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l