Ah, my friend Mr. Jambu. 'Bout time you stopped lurking out there! :) Couple of comments. Firstly, there IS something stopping you from accessin= g these things - something I know you have in abundance. Those things are = called honesty and integrity. ;) And of course they are followed up by the license police. It's the usual O= racle policy. There is nothing in your license (if I understand it correct= ly, anyway) that stops you from using ANY functionality in a non-Production= environment. Even the downloads off OTN are fully functioning, not term l= imited and so on. But once you use that stuff in Production, if it's a sep= arately licensable option we expect your money, your wife, and your daughte= r (OK, it's really just the money we want). And I would suggest this to everyone - particularly Darrell who I think rai= sed this point. Try the packs out. I think you'll find there is an ENORMO= US amount more in this stuff than 10046 and the Hotsos Profiler (not that I= mean to disparage the profiler, since Cary would kill me if I did!) = Pete = "Controlling developers is like herding cats." Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook = "Oh no, it's not. It's much harder than that!" Bruce Pihlamae, long-term Oracle DBA -----Original Message----- From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] = On Behalf Of Tony Jambu Sent: Wednesday, 28 July 2004 6:59 PM To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: AWR Licensing Hi Kirti There is nothing stopping anyone from accessing the = views and functions. = Be aware that these option packs are not offered with the Standard Edition = or Standard Edition One RDBMS. So you think that you are doing the right thing by not using these products= and will not require these optional packs right? In reality, you may be u= sing them without knowing it. = The underlying objects, programs and views are created by default in 10g. = If you access any of the following views: = 7 The V$ACTIVE_SESSION_HISTORY dynamic performance view = 7 All data dictionary views beginning with the prefix DBA_HIST_* alon= g with their underlying tables. and others mentioned in the link above, you are required to purchase the op= tional EM packs. = Basically big brother is auditing _all_ the features you are accessing! ta tony At 08:25 AM 27/07/2004 -0700, Kirtikumar Deshpande wrote: >Pete, >Just curious... = >'cause I fall in that poor individuals category... = > >If I don't have a Diagnostics Pack license, am I allowed to use the AWR pa= ckage, just >once, to turn the AWR stuff off? If I can't access all that nifty informat= ion without >Diag Pack, why would I want Oracle10g run those snapshots? = > >Regards, > >- Kirti = ---------------------------------------------------------------- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send email to: oracle-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. -- Archives are at //www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ FAQ is at //www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html ----------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send email to: oracle-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. -- Archives are at //www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ FAQ is at //www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html -----------------------------------------------------------------