[optimal] Re: fluorescein reactions? 10% vs 25%

  • From: "Egnatz, Thomas James" <tegnatz@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 09:53:36 -0400

Kevin is right.

Photographer A reads the consent to the patient: "...Reactions are uncommon but may occur. These include, but are not limited to: nausea, itching, hives, dizziness, fainting, sweating, difficulty breathing, or bruising or burning at the injection site..."

Nausea is mentioned but not dwelt on. If the patient mentions a bad experience with "X-ray dye", the photographer says that fluorescein is not as bad as that and hardly anyone gets sick (less than 2%).

Photographer B: "The shot might make you puke. If you have to puke, here is the bucket".

As someone mentioned, the temperature of the room has a lot to do with it. Our air conditioning went out one day and the room was about 84 degrees. The vomiting rate was about 50% that day.


kevinlangton@xxxxxxxxx:

I agree with Darrin everyone will have a different answer.

It has to do with more than just dye % and temp and speed of
injection. The photographer can also have some effect setting the
patient at ease.


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From: "Darrin Landry, CRA, OCT-C" <Darrin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 10:00:22
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Subject: [optimal] Re: fluorescein reactions? 10% vs 25%


In my experience, if you ask 5 ophthalmic photographers, you will get
5 different answers, and 5 ways to do it correctly.
Darrin Landry, CRA, OCT-C
Bryson Taylor Inc.
Ophthalmic Consultants and Training
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phone 207-838-0961
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From: "Breit, Peter" <BreitP@xxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 12:58 PM
To: "optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [optimal] fluorescein reactions? 10% vs 25%

I use AKORN 25% and have no problems with nausea unless the room is
very warm and the patient is African-American or Indian. Dark or
light FlSd makes no difference.

10% slower injection I use only very occasionally when I have to
shoot lots of peripheral shoots (BDR) on both eyes.

If you inject 5cc very fast you will get nausea almost every time,
just my opinion after my 45 years of experience with this stuff.

Time to retire ..



Thank you friends

Peter



Peter L. Breit, CRA.

Director Ophthalmic Services

The Lankenau Hospital & Bryn Mawr Hospital

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Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 4:45 PM
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Anecdotally, our incident of reaction is too low to statistically
track.  We almost never see nausea either.



Personally, I'm convinced it speaks to volume of solution, and/or
good patient management.



Denice



Denice Barsness, CRA, COMT, ROUB, CDOS, FOPS

Ophthalmic Diagnostic Center

CPMC Department of Ophthalmology

2100 Webster Street Suite 212

San Francisco  CA 94115

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just an unscientific survey please



which has less reactions?  10% or 25% fluorescein?



I'm guessing that I have about one patient everyother year will have
more than just nausea.  And its been about four years since I've
called an ambulance for a reaction.



And only a few per year that will be more than just nauseated, but
full out vomiting.  (those aren't fun)



Just curious.



Lori





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Consulting Ophthalmologists, PC

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Glastonbury , CT 06030

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