D, If you remember that conversation you and I had many years ago at that restaurant in New Orleans, I never had any doubts. :) Mark On 8/9/12 6:27 PM, "CPMC Eye Services" <cpmceyelab@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > So glad all of the ³guys² think we ³gals² are up to the task?.. > > > Denice Barsness, CRA, COMT, ROUB, CDOS, FOPS > Ophthalmic Diagnostic Center > CPMC Department of Ophthalmology > 2100 Webster Street Suite 212 > San Francisco CA 94115 > (415) 600-3937 FAX (415) 600-6563 > > > From: optimal-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:optimal-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of Anton Drew > Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 3:24 PM > To: optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [optimal] Re: Scientific Session idea: gender in ophthalmic > > I concur with Mark, having been a Medical Photographer from 1972, who > specialised in Ophthalmic Photography while working in the Medical Photography > Department, eventually to be invited by the Professor of Surgery to become a > full time Ophthalmic Photographer in Ophthalmology. That "natural progression" > Mark mentioned. > > > > Some 40 years later, I now have an assistant who has been with me for 8 years, > and has a far better command of IT and computer issues than me, and I gladly > let her take the reins in that department. > > > > As far as other duties, she does what I do, and as well, I might add, making > my future transition to retirement less stressful knowing I have left the > Ophthalmology Unit in good hands. :o) > > > > Anton Drew > > > > On 10/08/2012, at 1:13 AM, Mark Maio wrote: > > > My observations on gender, having started in ophthalmic photography in 1978 > after beginning my career in 1975 as a medical photographer. > > Most ophthalmic photographers back in the 70¹s started as medical > photographers. The majority of ophthalmic photography (a new sub specialty of > medicine) was being done in teaching hospitals and it required not only the > knowledge of diagnostic imaging but also running a full service darkroom and > imaging support for research and educational projects. Medical photographers > were recruited or applied for ophthalmic photography positions as a natural > progression of furthering their careers. Back then I explained my job as doing > diagnostic imaging of the eye and at the same time doing all the additional > functions of a medical photographer in support of the ophthalmology > department. The majority of these photographers were male. > > As many university programs started retina fellowships, a good number of these > new specialists in ophthalmology chose to go into private practice rather than > academics. As they did, the need for retina photography in private practice > increased and many ophthalmic technicians started doing the photography, the > majority of which were women. I remember sitting down with Paul Montague as he > was OPS President in the mid 80¹s and I was on the BOD and discussing the > change in gender makeup of the OPS. At the time it was around 50/50. We looked > at the BOD and BOE and saw that men made up the majority of members running > the OPS and decided to start looking for and encouraging women to run for > those positions. We figured that if 50% of our organization was female, that > percentage should be reflected in the governing bodies. I continued this same > philosophy for the four years I was President after Paul. It would be > interesting for someone to do a retrospective look at the male/female makeup > of the OPS over the years. My guess is that the OPS is probably 75% female. > > I agree with Marty that I don¹t think there is a difference between men and > women in photographic or computer problem solving ability or skills. While > working as an ophthalmic photographer I needed to learn to troubleshoot my > equipment to make sure I could continue doing diagnostic imaging on patients > every day. Did I enjoy it? No! I did it because I needed to do it. I have no > need to know how my camera or computer works, I just need to use it to do my > job. On the other hand I know women in our field who are excellent at both > troubleshooting their diagnostic imaging equipment and are quite the ³geek² > when it comes to their computers. > > Mark > > Mark Maio > InVision, Inc. > 5445 Buckhollow Drive > Alpharetta, GA 30005 > markmaio@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > 404-386-5676 > > Consultant in ophthalmic and biomedical imaging. > Member of Adobe's Biomedical Imaging Advisory Group > > My fine art photography is represented by Lumiere: > http://lumieregallery.net/wp/?p=254 > > -- Mark Maio InVision, Inc. 5445 Buckhollow Drive Alpharetta, GA 30005 markmaio@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 404-386-5676 Consultant in ophthalmic and biomedical imaging. Member of Adobe's Biomedical Imaging Advisory Group My fine art photography is represented by Lumiere: http://lumieregallery.net/wp/?p=254