[optimal] Re: Scientific Session idea: gender in ophthalmic

  • From: CPMC Ophthalmic Diagnostic Center <cpmceyelab@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "'optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 15:27:04 -0700

So glad all of the "guys" think we "gals" are up to the task.....

Denice Barsness, CRA, COMT, ROUB, CDOS, FOPS
Ophthalmic Diagnostic Center
CPMC Department of Ophthalmology
2100 Webster Street Suite 212
San Francisco CA 94115
(415) 600-3937   FAX (415) 600-6563

From: optimal-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:optimal-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Anton Drew
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 3:24 PM
To: optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [optimal] Re: Scientific Session idea: gender in ophthalmic

I concur with Mark, having been a Medical Photographer from 1972, who 
specialised in Ophthalmic Photography while working in the Medical Photography 
Department, eventually to be invited by the Professor of Surgery to become a 
full time Ophthalmic Photographer in Ophthalmology. That "natural progression" 
Mark mentioned.

Some 40 years later, I now have an assistant who has been with me for 8 years, 
and has a far better command of IT and computer issues than me, and I gladly 
let her take the reins in that department.

As far as other duties, she does what I do, and as well, I might add, making my 
future transition to retirement less stressful knowing I have left the 
Ophthalmology Unit in good hands.  :o)

Anton Drew

On 10/08/2012, at 1:13 AM, Mark Maio wrote:


My observations on gender, having started in ophthalmic photography in 1978 
after beginning my career in 1975 as a medical photographer.

Most ophthalmic photographers back in the 70's started as medical 
photographers. The majority of ophthalmic photography (a new sub specialty of 
medicine) was being done in teaching hospitals and it required not only the 
knowledge of diagnostic imaging but also running a full service darkroom and 
imaging support for research and educational projects. Medical photographers 
were recruited or applied for ophthalmic photography positions as a natural 
progression of furthering their careers. Back then I explained my job as doing 
diagnostic imaging of the eye and at the same time doing all the additional 
functions of a medical photographer in support of the ophthalmology department. 
The majority of these photographers were male.

As many university programs started retina fellowships, a good number of these 
new specialists in ophthalmology chose to go into private practice rather than 
academics. As they did, the need for retina photography in private practice 
increased and many ophthalmic technicians started doing the photography, the 
majority of which were women. I remember sitting down with Paul Montague as he 
was OPS President in the mid 80's and I was on the BOD and discussing the 
change in gender makeup of the OPS. At the time it was around 50/50. We looked 
at the BOD and BOE and saw that men made up the majority of members running the 
OPS and decided to start looking for and encouraging women to run for those 
positions. We figured that if 50% of our organization was female, that 
percentage should be reflected in the governing bodies. I continued this same 
philosophy for the four years I was President after Paul. It would be 
interesting for someone to do a retrospective look at the male/female makeup of 
the OPS over the years. My guess is that the OPS is probably 75% female.

I agree with Marty that I don't think there is a difference between men and 
women in photographic or computer problem solving ability or skills. While 
working as an ophthalmic photographer I needed to learn to troubleshoot my 
equipment to make sure I could continue doing diagnostic imaging on patients 
every day. Did I enjoy it? No! I did it because I needed to do it. I have no 
need to know how my camera or computer works, I just need to use it to do my 
job. On the other hand I know women in our field who are excellent at both 
troubleshooting their diagnostic imaging equipment and are quite the "geek" 
when it comes to their computers.

Mark

Mark Maio
InVision, Inc.
5445 Buckhollow Drive
Alpharetta, GA 30005
markmaio@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
404-386-5676

Consultant in ophthalmic and biomedical imaging.
Member of Adobe's Biomedical Imaging Advisory Group

My fine art photography is represented by Lumiere:  
http://lumieregallery.net/wp/?p=254

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