[optimal] Re: Scientific Session idea: gender in ophthalmic

  • From: Peter Hay <peterhay@xxxxxxx>
  • To: "optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <optimal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2012 12:52:23 -0400

Nice summation of the OPS over the years Mark . 

Peter Hay

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On Aug 9, 2012, at 11:43 AM, Mark Maio <markmaio@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> My observations on gender, having started in ophthalmic photography in 1978 
> after beginning my career in 1975 as a medical photographer.
> 
> Most ophthalmic photographers back in the 70’s started as medical 
> photographers. The majority of ophthalmic photography (a new sub specialty of 
> medicine) was being done in teaching hospitals and it required not only the 
> knowledge of diagnostic imaging but also running a full service darkroom and 
> imaging support for research and educational projects. Medical photographers 
> were recruited or applied for ophthalmic photography positions as a natural 
> progression of furthering their careers. Back then I explained my job as 
> doing diagnostic imaging of the eye and at the same time doing all the 
> additional functions of a medical photographer in support of the 
> ophthalmology department. The majority of these photographers were male. 
> 
> As many university programs started retina fellowships, a good number of 
> these new specialists in ophthalmology chose to go into private practice 
> rather than academics. As they did, the need for retina photography in 
> private practice increased and many ophthalmic technicians started doing the 
> photography, the majority of which were women. I remember sitting down with 
> Paul Montague as he was OPS President in the mid 80’s and I was on the BOD 
> and discussing the change in gender makeup of the OPS. At the time it was 
> around 50/50. We looked at the BOD and BOE and saw that men made up the 
> majority of members running the OPS and decided to start looking for and 
> encouraging women to run for those positions. We figured that if 50% of our 
> organization was female, that percentage should be reflected in the governing 
> bodies. I continued this same philosophy for the four years I was President 
> after Paul. It would be interesting for someone to do a retrospective look at 
> the male/female makeup of the OPS over the years. My guess is that the OPS is 
> probably 75% female. 
> 
> I agree with Marty that I don’t think there is a difference between men and 
> women in photographic or computer problem solving ability or skills. While 
> working as an ophthalmic photographer I needed to learn to troubleshoot my 
> equipment to make sure I could continue doing diagnostic imaging on patients 
> every day. Did I enjoy it? No! I did it because I needed to do it. I have no 
> need to know how my camera or computer works, I just need to use it to do my 
> job. On the other hand I know women in our field who are excellent at both 
> troubleshooting their diagnostic imaging equipment and are quite the “geek” 
> when it comes to their computers. 
> 
> Mark
> 
> Mark Maio
> InVision, Inc.
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> Alpharetta, GA 30005
> markmaio@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> 
> Consultant in ophthalmic and biomedical imaging.
> Member of Adobe's Biomedical Imaging Advisory Group
> 
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> http://lumieregallery.net/wp/?p=254
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 8/9/12 10:34 AM, "angiolith@xxxxxxx" <angiolith@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> I am not able to take the bait about gender in ophthalmic photography, but 
> would like to stir the pot:
>  
> 1.  The fact that more of the fiddlers, jury riggers, etc., are male may not 
> be a gender biased finding.  Most of the early ophthalmic photographers were 
> male (probably because the institutions were more likely to hire males in the 
> late 70'sand 80's), and these males were fiddlers and jury-riggers by 
> necessity as well as by nature, since the profession was not codified yet and 
> we had to do considerable problem solving.
>  
> 2.  The fiddlers and jury riggers, of whatever gender, are not necessarily 
> better ophthalmic photographers either.  When I offer to try to fix something 
> I haven't tried before, I always ask the requester if he/she is OK with me 
> ruining what I try to fix; the first time you try to fix something is always 
> a tricky proposition.  On the other hand, I have loved taking things apart 
> since I was a kid.  Still do - I never throw out a broken appliance or piece 
> of electronics without peeking inside.
>  
> 3.  But is this gender based or biased?  Gender or environmentally 
> determined?  I don't know.  However, my daughter has always liked fixing and 
> taking stuff apart with me, and my son (who is an expert computer weenie) 
> could care less.  
>  
> 4.  And Denice, I AM writing this while working (but at an office that has a 
> fairly low FA volume).
>  
> Marty Rothenberg
> Angiographics, Inc.
> 
> 
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