[optacon-l] Re: new optacon design

  • From: "Korene Kegg" <kkegg57@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 16:57:45 -0400

Thanks all, I'll try that.

Korene


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve" <k8sp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 4:14 PM
Subject: [optacon-l] Re: new optacon design


> No, the labels on the CD's are harder to read, but most of the time they 
> can
> be done.
>
> What is easier is to read the spline of the CD case.  Most often, in black
> or red are the CD author and title.  Sometimes, this will be printed in an
> inverted color like white on black or blue.   So try your Optacon on the
> inverse setting if you can't read the spline in normal mode.
>
> By the way, the spline is the edge on the side of the case where it hinges
> open.
>
> Steve
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Korene Kegg" <kkegg57@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 11:36 AM
> Subject: [optacon-l] Re: new optacon design
>
>
>>I can't seem to read the labels on Cd's with the Optacon.  Does anyone 
>>else
>> have this problem?
>> Korene
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Marie Rudys" <mrudys@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 1:35 AM
>> Subject: [optacon-l] Re: new optacon design
>>
>>
>>> David, that is marvelous.  Are you the one who did a song called After
>>> All?
>>> If you are, I was blown away by the harmony and the arrangement.  To the
>>> rest of you, please forgive me for veering a little bit off topic; I 
>>> just
>>> had to ask David this question.  Back to the Optacon, it is quite a
>>> delight
>>> when I can read titles to songs in German and I have a French album by
>>> Edith
>>> Piaf somewhere.  I never had a chance to use it in math or in school at
>>> all,
>>> since I learned it so late in life.
>>>
>>> Marie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "DAVID PLUMLEE" <knobman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:09 PM
>>> Subject: [optacon-l] Re: new optacon design
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi, Marie,
>>>>
>>>> I used my Optacon quite a bit a few years ago when I was dabbling in
>>>> Latin
>>>> church music of the Renaissance.  I even did a rendition of a French
>>>> Christmas carol on which I used the Optacon to read the French text,
>>>> dictated some of it on cassette, then wrote in braille a "lyric" sheet
>>>> which
>>>> was a hybrid between the French text and my phonetic representation of
>>>> some
>>>> words so that I would get some of the tricky pronunciations correct.  I
>>>> suppose I could have listened to the track and brailled a totally
>>>> phonetic
>>>> representation of each syllable I wanted to pronounce; but reading the
>>>> actual French text along with the English translation gave me a better
>>>> feel
>>>> of how I should sing the parts (I sang a quartet with myself).
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Marie Rudys" <mrudys@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 6:07 PM
>>>> Subject: [optacon-l] Re: new optacon design
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hear, hear!!!  I feel the same way you do, Diane.  Oh, scanners are
>>>>> nice,
>>>>> but nothing beats being able to read in realtime and know what words
>>>>> look
>>>>> like in print if names and words, especially foreign ones, are so
>>>>> unusual
>>>>> in
>>>>> their spelling and all.  I use my good old Optacon to read record
>>>>> sleeves
>>>>> (Oh, yes, I do have a small vinyl collection and it is old, but I love
>>>>> it
>>>>> and sadly, none of it is on CD);, and I use it to read German song
>>>>> titles,
>>>>> and Italian titles and whatever I have around here on vinyl and CD and
>>>>> cassettes.  You bet it is very indespensable.  Scanners cannot come
>>>>> close
>>>>> for me; it has to be the Optacon.  It helped me through those long,
>>>>> lonely
>>>>> nights when I could not sleep too well in the battered women's shelter
>>>>> in
>>>>> 1995 and 1997; whenever I was not running the dishwasher or writing
>>>>> something on my Braille 'N Speak which has since died, I was always
>>>>> reading
>>>>> something with my Optacon.  I found a way to muffle some of the
>>>>> vibrations
>>>>> so people would be less bothered by it.  Crazy thing is when sometimes
>>>>> my
>>>>> roomie worked nights at the shelter, and didn't come home until much
>>>>> later,
>>>>> I took the Optacon to bed with me and read.  It was the closest I 
>>>>> could
>>>>> come
>>>>> to reading with a flashlight.
>>>>>
>>>>> Marie
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Dianne B. Phelps" <d.bphelps@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 1:46 PM
>>>>> Subject: [optacon-l] Re: new optacon design
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I agree with you on this. I must say that I was thrilled when I
>>>>>>acquired
>>>>>>my
>>>>>> first Kurzweil Personal Reader for which I scrimped and saved and got
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> bank
>>>>>> loan to have. But I remember vividly thinking that there were still
>>>>>> things
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> needed and wanted to see with my fingers and kind of wanted both
>>>>>> elements
>>>>>> within the same device. To this day, I find it more difficult to 
>>>>>> learn
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> do
>>>>>> something via just hearing it unless I slow it down and listen line 
>>>>>> by
>>>>>> line
>>>>>> to the steps I need to take. There was just something about that put
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> hands on it in real time that made total sense to me along with the
>>>>>> help
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> the OCR. The optacon is where I can really "SEE" it and where it
>>>>>> really
>>>>>> gets
>>>>>> to my stunted brain.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dianne
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> [mailto:optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>>>> On Behalf Of John Huffman
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 4:51 AM
>>>>>> To: optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Subject: [optacon-l] Re: new optacon design
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi, Catherine and All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's fine to "think outside the box" in terms of developing a NEW
>>>>>> Optacon.
>>>>>> After all, technology has advanced much since 1970, and it may be
>>>>>> possible
>>>>>> to devise new ways to accomplish old tasks which would never occur to
>>>>>> us
>>>>>> non-wizards.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But I feel very strongly that in doing this the Optacon's primary
>>>>>> purpose,
>>>>>> READING print in real time, should remain the primary goal of all 
>>>>>> such
>>>>>> redesign projects.  That is a niche that critically needs to be kept
>>>>>> filled
>>>>>> by an Optacon or something very much like it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers, JH
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Catherine Thomas" <braille@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 5:40 AM
>>>>>> Subject: [optacon-l] Re: new optacon design
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just as with scanners, there are some excellent braille translation
>>>>>>> programs. If you need to read print documents and covert them to
>>>>>>> braille
>>>>>>> that is the method to use.
>>>>>>> The Optacon reads print as print--no re-interpretation. Because the
>>>>>>> Optacon reads print as print, we can read all sorts of non-standard
>>>>>>> things
>>>>>>> including lettering imposed on pictures. Lots of mail these days
>>>>>>> comes
>>>>>>> with logos. We may not know all the details of what the logo 
>>>>>>> contains
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>> we can often if we encounter the same thing a few times, recognize
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> shape. Again, reading print as print in real time is the Optacon's
>>>>>>> primary
>>>>>>> purpose.
>>>>>>> Catherine
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> -Catherine Thomas
>>>>>>> braille@xxxxxxxxx                     /
>>>>>>>
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