Thanks all, I'll try that. Korene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve" <k8sp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 4:14 PM Subject: [optacon-l] Re: new optacon design > No, the labels on the CD's are harder to read, but most of the time they > can > be done. > > What is easier is to read the spline of the CD case. Most often, in black > or red are the CD author and title. Sometimes, this will be printed in an > inverted color like white on black or blue. So try your Optacon on the > inverse setting if you can't read the spline in normal mode. > > By the way, the spline is the edge on the side of the case where it hinges > open. > > Steve > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Korene Kegg" <kkegg57@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 11:36 AM > Subject: [optacon-l] Re: new optacon design > > >>I can't seem to read the labels on Cd's with the Optacon. Does anyone >>else >> have this problem? >> Korene >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Marie Rudys" <mrudys@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 1:35 AM >> Subject: [optacon-l] Re: new optacon design >> >> >>> David, that is marvelous. Are you the one who did a song called After >>> All? >>> If you are, I was blown away by the harmony and the arrangement. To the >>> rest of you, please forgive me for veering a little bit off topic; I >>> just >>> had to ask David this question. Back to the Optacon, it is quite a >>> delight >>> when I can read titles to songs in German and I have a French album by >>> Edith >>> Piaf somewhere. I never had a chance to use it in math or in school at >>> all, >>> since I learned it so late in life. >>> >>> Marie >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "DAVID PLUMLEE" <knobman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:09 PM >>> Subject: [optacon-l] Re: new optacon design >>> >>> >>>> Hi, Marie, >>>> >>>> I used my Optacon quite a bit a few years ago when I was dabbling in >>>> Latin >>>> church music of the Renaissance. I even did a rendition of a French >>>> Christmas carol on which I used the Optacon to read the French text, >>>> dictated some of it on cassette, then wrote in braille a "lyric" sheet >>>> which >>>> was a hybrid between the French text and my phonetic representation of >>>> some >>>> words so that I would get some of the tricky pronunciations correct. I >>>> suppose I could have listened to the track and brailled a totally >>>> phonetic >>>> representation of each syllable I wanted to pronounce; but reading the >>>> actual French text along with the English translation gave me a better >>>> feel >>>> of how I should sing the parts (I sang a quartet with myself). >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Marie Rudys" <mrudys@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 6:07 PM >>>> Subject: [optacon-l] Re: new optacon design >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hear, hear!!! I feel the same way you do, Diane. Oh, scanners are >>>>> nice, >>>>> but nothing beats being able to read in realtime and know what words >>>>> look >>>>> like in print if names and words, especially foreign ones, are so >>>>> unusual >>>>> in >>>>> their spelling and all. I use my good old Optacon to read record >>>>> sleeves >>>>> (Oh, yes, I do have a small vinyl collection and it is old, but I love >>>>> it >>>>> and sadly, none of it is on CD);, and I use it to read German song >>>>> titles, >>>>> and Italian titles and whatever I have around here on vinyl and CD and >>>>> cassettes. You bet it is very indespensable. Scanners cannot come >>>>> close >>>>> for me; it has to be the Optacon. It helped me through those long, >>>>> lonely >>>>> nights when I could not sleep too well in the battered women's shelter >>>>> in >>>>> 1995 and 1997; whenever I was not running the dishwasher or writing >>>>> something on my Braille 'N Speak which has since died, I was always >>>>> reading >>>>> something with my Optacon. I found a way to muffle some of the >>>>> vibrations >>>>> so people would be less bothered by it. Crazy thing is when sometimes >>>>> my >>>>> roomie worked nights at the shelter, and didn't come home until much >>>>> later, >>>>> I took the Optacon to bed with me and read. It was the closest I >>>>> could >>>>> come >>>>> to reading with a flashlight. >>>>> >>>>> Marie >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Dianne B. Phelps" <d.bphelps@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 1:46 PM >>>>> Subject: [optacon-l] Re: new optacon design >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>I agree with you on this. I must say that I was thrilled when I >>>>>>acquired >>>>>>my >>>>>> first Kurzweil Personal Reader for which I scrimped and saved and got >>>>>> a >>>>>> bank >>>>>> loan to have. But I remember vividly thinking that there were still >>>>>> things >>>>>> I >>>>>> needed and wanted to see with my fingers and kind of wanted both >>>>>> elements >>>>>> within the same device. To this day, I find it more difficult to >>>>>> learn >>>>>> to >>>>>> do >>>>>> something via just hearing it unless I slow it down and listen line >>>>>> by >>>>>> line >>>>>> to the steps I need to take. There was just something about that put >>>>>> your >>>>>> hands on it in real time that made total sense to me along with the >>>>>> help >>>>>> of >>>>>> the OCR. The optacon is where I can really "SEE" it and where it >>>>>> really >>>>>> gets >>>>>> to my stunted brain. >>>>>> >>>>>> Dianne >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> [mailto:optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] >>>>>> On Behalf Of John Huffman >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 4:51 AM >>>>>> To: optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> Subject: [optacon-l] Re: new optacon design >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, Catherine and All, >>>>>> >>>>>> It's fine to "think outside the box" in terms of developing a NEW >>>>>> Optacon. >>>>>> After all, technology has advanced much since 1970, and it may be >>>>>> possible >>>>>> to devise new ways to accomplish old tasks which would never occur to >>>>>> us >>>>>> non-wizards. >>>>>> >>>>>> But I feel very strongly that in doing this the Optacon's primary >>>>>> purpose, >>>>>> READING print in real time, should remain the primary goal of all >>>>>> such >>>>>> redesign projects. That is a niche that critically needs to be kept >>>>>> filled >>>>>> by an Optacon or something very much like it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, JH >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Catherine Thomas" <braille@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 5:40 AM >>>>>> Subject: [optacon-l] Re: new optacon design >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Just as with scanners, there are some excellent braille translation >>>>>>> programs. If you need to read print documents and covert them to >>>>>>> braille >>>>>>> that is the method to use. >>>>>>> The Optacon reads print as print--no re-interpretation. Because the >>>>>>> Optacon reads print as print, we can read all sorts of non-standard >>>>>>> things >>>>>>> including lettering imposed on pictures. Lots of mail these days >>>>>>> comes >>>>>>> with logos. We may not know all the details of what the logo >>>>>>> contains >>>>>>> but >>>>>>> we can often if we encounter the same thing a few times, recognize >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> shape. Again, reading print as print in real time is the Optacon's >>>>>>> primary >>>>>>> purpose. >>>>>>> Catherine >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> -- >>>>>>> -Catherine Thomas >>>>>>> braille@xxxxxxxxx / >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> --- >>>>>>> to view the list archives, go to: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> www.freelists.org/archives/optacon-l >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To unsubscribe at any time, just send a message to: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" (without >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> quotes) in the message subject. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tell your friends about the list. 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