Just had a chance to play with this little, round, home theater PC STB device. It is just the sort of PC I had in mind, to bring the Internet to the (H)DTV and audio system. RF remote keyboard with standard mouse pad. Built in BluRay player/recorder. Built in PVR functionality, using its hard drive. Regular old Internet access. Windows Vista installed. Also a normal looking remote control, for the non-Internet related functions. http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalo gId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921665296592 This was in a store, and Saturday afternoon, which had a way of giving me a realistic demo. Which is to say, there may not have been any RF reception issues per se, since this setup wasn't even using WiFi (it has 802.11b/g built in), but that didn't mean "good reception" anyway. With all the kids in the store playing with laptops and stuff, the poor guy couldn't even manage to stream 400 Kb/s. Not even close. Never managed more than a couple of seconds of streaming video. Obviously, the congestion problem here was between the store's internal network and its Internet link. However, seems to me the problem would also occur in most ISP nets in the near term, if the majority of users start watching TV over the Internet. Still, I did manage to see what the low rate IP media streams look like on a ~50" LCD HDTV. Not bad. And of course, there are sites that allow download of much higher quality stuff. They want about $1700. It's also very quiet. This is the sort of STB that will probably become the norm, in short order. Bert ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.