Or we could pass another bailout bill of say 800bn to demo any hills blocking reception in city areas. That's a win win -- we create jobs and solve the atsc reception problem at the same time.
Maybe I should be running for office! Cheers Kon Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 7, 2009, at 10:01 AM, "Allen Le Roy Limberg" <allimberg@xxxxxxxxxxxx > wrote:
Here in Suncoast Florida our reception of DTV with fancy rabbit ears and no wideband amplifier is substantially more satisfactory than NTSC was. This is so with both Zenith and Magnavox set-top converters. We live on a mountain top 22' above sea level in Port Charlotte, so our terrain is favorable.I suggest solving the Cliff effect by having him move to Southwest Florida while you can still buy a good house for $100K. We also have very little snow, though daytime temperatures can dip as low as the high 60's. Our summers are probably a little cooler than where he lives, too, but morerainy in the late afternoon. Al ----- Original Message ----- From: "Albert Manfredi" <albert.e.manfredi@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 9:48 PM Subject: [opendtv] Re: News: Free but Fickle, DTV Eludes SomeCraig Birkmaier posted:Free but Fickle, DTV Eludes Somehttp://www.tvnewsday.com/articles/2009/03/03/daily.2/ The article says, among other things:"The dirty little secret about digital is that it doesn't have nearly thecoverage of analog."The real truth is, most of these articles don't educate or elucidate, theygo for dramatic effect.VHF-only antennas to work for UHF too. Sometimes the problem is that the DTV station is at still too low power. I'll bet that many times, the problem is that the "successful" analog reception was very poor, but the interviewee was never explained about the digital cliff. Rarely are all the facts given,Sometimes the reception problems are explained by people expectingand this article is no exception.analog vs digital signal strength for stations that are good or marginal.I did a tvfools.com experiment, to see what this one tool says aboutlikely local VHF stations. In my case, using my current antenna height ofThe analog signals that these interviewees usually rave about are most~3':analog VHF digital (all UHF) ---------- ------- Ch 4 -33.3 dBm -64.2 dBm Ch 5 -37.0 dBm -65.7 dBm Ch 7 -39.8 dBm -66.8 dBm Ch 9 -41 dBm -61.1 dBm Hmmm. You think 30 dB difference in signal strength could have someeffect? And yet, those DTV stations are good.would measure as, and compare it with its digital counterpart. Here are some truly marginal analog stations, from Baltimore, and the comparative digitalSo then I tried to see what a truly grainy and inadequate analog stationsstrength. The digital is most often fine, sometimes over the cliff."digital," but signal strength differences. And even then, those essentially unviewable analog stations, 45 and 54, are often beat by their solid digitalanalog (UHF) digital (also UHF) ---------- ------- Ch 45 -96.2 dBm -100.4 dBm Ch 54 -88.7 dBm -97.4 dBmGoing by these numbers, it seems clear that the problem is not so muchcounterpart, at lower strength.absolute values. I doubt my receivers are really good to -100 dBm. And it is remarkable that analog stations really can sync up at such low power levels. But truly, I bet most of the differences in reception are explained by theI'm think the tvfool numbers are best taken to show comparisons, notdigital signal being quite a bit weaker than its analog precedent.Bert _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail® is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_70faster_032009--- -------------------------------------------------------------------You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways:- Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings atFreeLists.org- By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the wordunsubscribe in the subject line.---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways:- Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org- By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.
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