Adopting AVC (or VC-1, I presume) is the same as changing modulation? Only to an integrated receiver, perhaps. John Willkie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Miller" <bob@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 5:30 PM Subject: [opendtv] Re: Qualcomm on Channel 55 > Manfredi, Albert E wrote: > > >Bob Miller wrote: > > > > > > > >>>And there's nothing stopping adoption of AVC in ATSC anyway. > >>> > >>> > >>To do so would make all current receivers obsolete however. > >> > >> > > > >So what makes this different, Bob? The same holds for *any other* distribution standard. > > > > > You say that we could adopt AVC as if there were no other cost involved. > But to adopt AVC is the same as changing modulations so if we change > codecs we should reconsider everything. And I think we should change codecs. > > >With ATSC, at least, we can already receive HDTV, even without a new codec. Same goes for Aussie DVB-T. But in Europe, no way to receive HDTV unless you buy new equipment. > > > > > Since we can receive HDTV no reason to change codecs. OK. No problem if > you think that HD is what will save OTA. In fact, so far, HD has had no > affect on the OTA DTV transition. Few people are buying OTA receivers to > get HD. They are buying HDTV sets and using cable or satellite or just > waiting till there is enough content on cable or satellite. Few are > leaving the store with OTA receivers. No discernible affect. > > In any country that has already made a choice and gone down a path then > yes there are consequences if they then change. But France will use > MPEG4 AVC for subscription OTA and HD. No problem if you haven't > implemented yet or if you are not too far down the path. I think the US > still could should change. > > >But wherever you are, introducing AVC will obsolete equipment. You can of course run parallel streams, which is a wasteful kludge, but a pragmatic solution. > > > > > > Not if you haven't done anything yet. Lots of countries haven't. > > >There will be codecs beyond AVC, and the process will repeat. Same-o same-o no matter what standard you're using at the time. > > > > > > Not same o IMO. We for instance have determined that their is no > business plan for MPEG2 while there is one for MPEG4 AVC. You may > disagree but there is a cut off point where not enough content per > physical channel will doom any OTA venture. We think that cut off point > is above MPEG2 and we think MPEG4 AVC will offer enough. We could be > wrong. Maybe we should wait another 10 years for the next codec. > > One way over some period of time is to use an Equator type solution > where you may insure yourself that you can take advantage of improved > codecs and stay competitive. Broadcasters are already non competitive > with cable and satellite and are now saddled with MPEG2 while their > competitors upgrade to MPEG4 AVC. > > Bob Miller > > >Bert > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: > > - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org > > - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.