Monty Solomon posted: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-09-06/apple-tv-no-iphone-as-talks-bog-down-with-media-companies.html May I say "I told you so"? Reading this article, does anyone come away with the impression that "all Apple wants to do" is compete with Scientific Atlanta, merely to build a better proprietary STB for a given cableco? On the contrary, what it says is: "Apple is vying with the likes of Google Inc. (GOOG), Microsoft Corp. (MSFT) and Amazon.com Inc. (AMZN) to make TVs the digital hub of people's lives in an industry projected to reach $200 billion worldwide by 2017." (I didn't know that Microsoft was in that fray too. It has a very nice Windows Media Center available with Win7, which I don't believe require any special deals with anyone.) Also another quote: "Unlike negotiations with music companies and book publishers, Apple co-founder Steve Jobs was never able to strike a comprehensive media deal to create a product fitting that vision before his death last October. He regularly told Apple executives that unless the company can get more content, especially live broadcasting, Apple's impact on television wouldn't be disruptive, said two former Apple managers." Apple is looking to have TV content, including live content, on the same basis as it has other iTunes content, in a OTT type of service, or "walled garden" arrangement, similar to Amazon's. Bert ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.