Bob Miller wrote: > The air car would also weigh a lot less so it would take > far less energy to move it a mile. They claim 112 and 137 > miles per charge. The cost per charge they claim would be > one Euro or around $1.27. I like that. > > If as you say this would work with a bus or other large > vehicle why would it not work for a car? As always when over-hyping whatever new invention, the whole picture gets ignored. Already the claim of "no pollution" is as dubious as it is for hydrogen cars or electric cars. Similar too are the ridiculous claims for fuel economy of plug-in hyrids, as if the electric energy they require is somehow free. It's not, and that energy is always lugging around a heavy battery and a gasoline engine. The latter even when it's not in use. For these air engines to work, it means compressing air to incredibly high pressures, and in large volumes. Because, again, you don't have that benefit of latent energy in the air, as you do in H2 or in a hydrocarbon fuel. So even though the air is light, the container to hold it safely under enormous pressure is anything but light. A gasoline tank can be made of thin aluminum, for example. John Shutt showed you the difference in energy content of 5 liters of 3000 psi air (that's a lot of psi) and 3.7 liters of gasoline. Enormous difference. If his numbers are right (I'm too lazy to check, but they sound about right), it would take 319 times the volume of a gas tank to hold the same amount of energy in an air bottle at 3000 psi. Doesn't 319X the size of a gas tank, not to mention the required extra strength, sound like something to be factored into our thinking? To temporarily store energy that would otherwise go to waste, something that matters mostly in stop-and-go city driving, this air system might make sense. But that becomes a hybrid vehicle. It still needs the gasoline or diesel engine. Bert ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.