If it was the same size as a Rosy Maple, that would be big for notialis but that subterminal band appears to be too irregular for velleda. Ken Childs Henderson, TN Chester County http://tinyurl.com/FinishFlagFarmsMoths http://www.finishflagfarms.com ________________________________ From: Bb <birdranger248@xxxxxxxxx> To: "ncsc-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <ncsc-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 10:41 AM Subject: [ncsc-moths] Re: Medoc Mt. SP. Moths Tolype size i recall was larger than a rosy maple moth which lists the same measurements as t vellada. Our state parks database lists two june records for crowders mountain and new river. Not the season for an early brood so these may all be the small? Sorry to leave you to the wolves paul!!! Had a bbs route this morning! Brian Bockhahn Durham NC On Jun 16, 2013, at 8:29 AM, <pandlscharf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Good question. I think it might have been large enough, over 20 mm. Brian & Kyle, what do you guys think ? Paul >From: Hugh McGuinness >Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 8:19 AM >To: ncsc-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: [ncsc-moths] Re: Medoc Mt. SP. Moths > What about the size? > > > > >On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 8:18 AM, <pandlscharf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >Don’t really know, the three of us all thought the markings fit T. velleda. >Paul >>From: Hugh McGuinness >>Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 7:59 AM >>To: ncsc-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>Subject: [ncsc-moths] Re: Medoc Mt. SP. Moths >> >>Are you sure this was T. velleda? I thought that species was restricted to >>fall flight. Could it have been one of the other two species? >> >>hugh >> >> >> >> >>On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 7:13 AM, <pandlscharf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>Brian, Kyle and I spent Friday night and most of Sat during a Bio Blitz of >>Medoc Mt SP. It was a bit chilly so mothing was slow, but we did get some >>interesting moths and added to the Park List . Attached are two of my >>favorites, 8217.Long-streaked Tussock, Leucanopsis longa and 7670.Large >>Tolype, Tolype velleda. We also had a good variety of Micros and >>Leafhoppers. Paul >> >> >>-- >>Hugh McGuinness >>Washington, D.C. >> > > >-- >Hugh McGuinness >Washington, D.C. >