You're right Eric, but the thing is the machine is for our place at Port where I don't think they even have high speed. And if they do I pay more than $30 for Rogers high speed in London, compared, as you say, to $15 in Port. One high-speed expense is manageable buttwo is hard to justify, at least for me. I figured they dropped the modems because of highspeed. Mind you my ISP at Port has a high-speed service but I'm not sure how it works . . . and it's still not cheap. If it was my main computer . . . but it's not. jim _________________________________________________ For information concerning the MUGLO List just click on http://muglo.on.ca/Pages/joinus.html Our Archives can be viewed at //www.freelists.org/archives/muglo Don't forget to periodically check our web site at: http://muglo.on.ca/