[muglo] Re: The GIMP (a Photoshop substitute for $0)

I quite like gedit, but, I have to honest in that I don't really do that 
much with my computers nowadays (using them for work takes some of the fun 
out of fiddling with them at home... that's why I branched out into 
GNU/Linux - a whole new world to learn). Supposedly AbiWord compiles and 
runs on OS X X11, but, unfortunately I don't have the OS X developers tools 
installed so I can't find out :-( (i d/l it yesterday & discovered the lack 
of the dev tools when I went to run the compile script).

Also, not quite X11, but there's a PERL-based app called WebMin 
(<http://www.webmin.com/>) which allows you to control a _lot_ of 
under-the-hood OS X functionality, and, especially the hidden servers. I'm 
sure someone knowledgeable could turn OS X into a pretty reasonable 
competitor with OS X server using WebMin (you'd be surprised just how much 
functionality is built-in into OS X). Once installed you access it via 
http://localhost:10000.

Actually, if you -really- want to play with some X11 apps, why not try them 
in an environment built around/for X11, KDE or GNOME (GNOME is my preferred 
b/c it's simpler) ;-P. The GNU/Linux distros for the Mac are all 
"moderately" user-friendly insofar as they'll install without any hitches 
(about as easy as installing OS X I'd say, except for needing to partition). 
Ubuntu works nicely and is designed around the philosophy of bringing 
GNU/Linux to the masses (i.e. simplicity is the key) but since it is brand 
spanking new (1 month) I'm sure there are still rough edges and is missing 
some packages. YDL 3.0.1 is pretty good (albeit feeling quite dated beside 
Ubuntu) and YDL 4.0's release as a free download is imminent (it's been on 
sale for a month or so) and should bring it up to parity with Ubuntu. I have 
no experience with the other distros on the Mac.

I'd also say the installs are often less irritating than and don't violate 
your privacy like OS X since Apple insists on collecting personal 
information about you and REFUSES to allow you to opt out (they're no better 
than Microsloth) or enter blatently false info (like phone number 
111-111-1111 & they've had a lot of "noneofyourbusiness", "gotohell" and 
even more colourful combinations for addresses, names, etc. which 
mysteriously don't point to any real places or people).

Eric.

>From: doug rogers <dougsamu@xxxxxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: muglo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: "MUGLO Online" <muglo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [muglo] Re: The GIMP (a Photoshop substitute for $0)
>Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2004 17:30:14 -0500
>
> >Hi, I just d/l and installed The GIMP
>
>
>  Any other cool X11 apps you are aware of?


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