Hi Gerhard This is a "luxo" lamp iMac, yes? holding the mouse button down (left button, if it's a 2 button mouse) on startup should open the optical drive. if not, then yes, the paperclip should work. If you are unable to repair the drive, I would do an Archive and Install on it, making sure to "preserve user accounts". It's under Options in the Tiger installer I highly recommend DiskWarrior if you can afford it ($120 CAN from Mostly Digital). It's saved my butt too many times to count. ---- Scott Strawbridge | Graphic Artist scotts1@xxxxxxx http://homepage.mac.com/scotts1 http://www.scottstrawbridge.com http://www.liquidphoenixdesign.com msn: scottstrawbridge@xxxxxxxxxxx ichat/aol: scotts1@xxxxxxx yahoo: straws4@xxxxxxxxx On 14-Jun-07, at 11:33 AM, Gerhard Kuhn wrote: > Hi Scott > > First I have to find the OS 10.4 disk and then figure out how open > the CD drive, I think this one can be opened with the paperclip > thing it is just not that easy to open the exterior door manually > but it should not be a problem. The drive seems to work fine, I > copied a couple of files via firewire. I imagine what I will do is > try to format the drive and then try to do a OS install. Should > that fail I will attempt to install the OS on the external LaCie > hard drive and see if I can get it to boot from there. I really > don't want to rip the thing apart to install a new drive and I > doubt the computer is worth paying a technician to do replace the > internal drive. > > Gerhard > > On Thursday, June 14, 2007, at 10:38AM, "Scott Strawbridge" > <scotts1@xxxxxxx> wrote: >> Can you boot from your system disk and run disk utility from there? >> it looks bad. >> ---- >> Scott Strawbridge | Graphic Artist >> scotts1@xxxxxxx >> http://homepage.mac.com/scotts1 >> http://www.scottstrawbridge.com >> http://www.liquidphoenixdesign.com >> >> msn: scottstrawbridge@xxxxxxxxxxx >> ichat/aol: scotts1@xxxxxxx >> yahoo: straws4@xxxxxxxxx >> >> >> >> On 14-Jun-07, at 9:59 AM, Gerhard Kuhn wrote: >> >>> I brought my laptop in and thought that I would run disk utility >>> repair on it and that led to an error after 30 seconds or so this is >>> the message I got. >>> http://mypixel.ca/muglo/disk.jpg >>> >>> Would my best option be to format the drive and then try to >>> reinstall >>> the OS. I guess I better go look for the disk. >>> >>> >>> Gerhard >>> >>> >>> On Jun 13, 2007, at 12:28 PM, Scott Strawbridge wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Gerhard >>>> can you get it to boot into Single User mode (restart, hold down >>>> command S until you get the Unix prompt)? >>>> then type fsck -fy and hit return (I'm assuming you're running >>>> Tiger. >>>> if not, then type fsck -y) >>>> this will run a file system check and repair anything damaged. >>>> If you >>>> are running Tiger, fsck will keep running until it comes up with no >>>> more errors. If you are running Panther or lower, keep repeat the >>>> process until the check reports no errors. >>>> when the drive checks as ok, type reboot and hit return. >>>> The mac should restart >>>> Do you have a copy of DiskWarrior or another repair utility >>>> (TechTool, etc.) on hand? if so, try booting from the CD. >>>> ---- >>>> Scott Strawbridge | Graphic Artist >>>> scotts1@xxxxxxx >>>> http://homepage.mac.com/scotts1 >>>> http://www.scottstrawbridge.com >>>> http://www.liquidphoenixdesign.com >>>> >>>> msn: scottstrawbridge@xxxxxxxxxxx >>>> ichat/aol: scotts1@xxxxxxx >>>> yahoo: straws4@xxxxxxxxx >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 13-Jun-07, at 12:11 PM, Gerhard Kuhn wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> This morning we went to boot up our oldest Mac, a G4 800 iMac. >>>>> All >>>>> it does is come to a gray screen with the apple logo, the hard- >>>>> drive seems to be spinning I can boot to target mode but I don't >>>>> have my laptop with me right now so can't confirm that the hard- >>>>> drive is o.k. 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