This morning we went to boot up our oldest Mac, a G4 800 iMac. All it does is come to a gray screen with the apple logo, the hard-drive seems to be spinning I can boot to target mode but I don't have my laptop with me right now so can't confirm that the hard-drive is o.k. Any ideas would be appreciated. Gerhard ----------------------------------------------------------- For information about MUGLO: http://www.freewebs.com/muglo -----------------------------------------------------------