[mso] Re: Margins in Landscape printing

  • From: Jonathan Drawer <jdrawer07@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 19:16:00 -0800 (PST)

John,
In your original email you wrote -
I have noticed an anomaly (I think!) in the setting of margins for landscape 
printing.
Using Portrait and Page Setup, deleting all margins and allowing Word to set 
the minimums I get Top .17cm Bottom 1.28cm

Use Landscape in the same way Left .17cm Right 1.28cm

Now you wrote -
the LeftHand edge is now the leading edgeYou do not indicate if the margins in 
Landscape also reversed using the latest driver.  If not then the new driver 
prints the Left edge of the paper that has the shortest margin first and the 
right edge with the largest margin last.  Isn't that what you want?

Jonathan


--- On Fri, 1/9/09, John Grierson <griersoft@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: John Grierson <griersoft@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [mso] Re: Margins in Landscape printing
To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Friday, January 9, 2009, 5:30 AM

Thanks for all comments. Tried downloading the latest Lexmark driver and to 
my horror the LeftHand edge is now the leading edge through the printer. 
Re-installed the original driver but no change.

Managed to contact Lexmark who inform me:

"The software you are using has the responsibility of setting the margins,
paper orientation, etc. Even if you change the paper setup in the printer
driver the software will override the margin or orientation settings if it
is set to something different. I would suggest going to the software help
section and determining how to change the margins/orientation/paper size.
This will probably take care of the problem."

Is there perhaps a bit of VBA code I could use in a macro that would force 
the Righthand margin to feed first?

Thanks

John Grierson
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jonathan Drawer" <jdrawer07@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 1:57 AM
Subject: [mso] Re: Margins in Landscape printing


> As another interesting workaround, I have Adobe Essentials and tried 
> printing to a pdf file. Once I selected Adobe pdf as the printer then the 
> margins in Word 2003 could be set to anything, including 0.0. So the Right

> margin in Landscape could be set to the correct value equal to that of the

> Top margin in Portrait. The result is printed to a pdf file. The pdf file 
> could then be printed using the installed printer with the margins in the 
> Adobe pdf image appropriate for that printer.
> Of course that doesn't solve the basic problem with the Lexmark
printer 
> driver, but it was an interesting test.
>
> Jonathan
>
> --- On Fri, 1/2/09, Dian Chapman <dian@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> From: Dian Chapman <dian@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [mso] Re: Margins in Landscape printing
> To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Friday, January 2, 2009, 12:24 AM
>
> <hee, hee> As a workaround, you can stick all the text in a table
cell and
> flip it to the other direction.<shrug> Hey, I'm tryin'. ;-)
>
> Dian D. Chapman
> Technical Consultant, Microsoft MVP
> MOS Certified Instructor, Editor/TechTrax Ezine
> Tech Editor for Word & Office 2007 Bibles
> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Dian.Chapman
>
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Jonathan Drawer
> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 4:32 PM
> To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [mso] Re: Margins in Landscape printing
>
> As a test I checked that for Portrait the top of the page is printed first
> from Word 2003 on my HP Deskjet 820Cse. For Landscape the Right side is
> printed first. The blank paper is fed in in the same way for all printing.
> The default margin for the Top (0.04") in Portrait is the same as
that for
> the Right in Landscape. The default margin for the Bottom (0.46") in
> Portrait is the same as that for the Left in Landscape. That seems correct
> since the printer permits printing closer to the edge of the paper that
> passes first through the printer (the Top in Portrait and Right in
> Landscape) and requires a larger magin at the end of the paper (the Bottom
> in Portrait and Left in Landscape).
> I can't find anything in the Printer setup allowing the setting of
default
> margins so I must assume they are defined in the printer driver as Dian
> indicated. Other web sites also indicate the same. So contacting Lexmark
> about the problem may be the only solution.
>
> Jonathan
>
> --- On Thu, 1/1/09, David Smart <smartware@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> From: David Smart <smartware@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [mso] Re: Margins in Landscape printing
> To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Thursday, January 1, 2009, 3:59 PM
>
> Also check your printer settings.  IIRC it is more normal for the left to 
> be
> the top in landscape.  There might be a way of getting the printer to
> reverse this.
>
> (I can't check at the moment, my printer is about 300 km away from the
> house
> I'm for the next couple of days.)
>
> Regards, Dave S
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Grierson" <griersoft@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 4:45 AM
> Subject: [mso] Re: Margins in Landscape printing
>
>
>> Thanks for that Dian. Unfortunately I have got the latest driver - but
I
>> will let Lexmark know about this
>>
>> John Grierson
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Dian Chapman" <dian@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 4:38 PM
>> Subject: [mso] Re: Margins in Landscape printing
>>
>>
>>> You may want to check and update your print driver. Word gets
it's
> "data"
>>> from the driver installed for the printer you have. So
> "Word" didn't
>>> reverse
>>> anything...the data being received to Word is apparently
incorrect.
> I.e.,
>>> the programmers who wrote the code for the printer > Word
>>> connection...messed up!
>>>
>>> Go to the web site for your printer and see if there is a new
version
> for
>>> your printer. Chances are someone else discovered the problem and
they
>>> fixed
>>> it in an update. Download the NEWEST version of the print driver
>>> available
>>> for your particular printer. Install it and give it another shot.
>>>
>>> Dian D. Chapman
>>> Technical Consultant, Microsoft MVP
>>> MOS Certified Instructor, Editor/TechTrax Ezine
>>> Tech Editor for Word & Office 2007 Bibles
>>> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Dian.Chapman
>>>
>>> Dian's Soldiers' Angels Blankets
>>> http://www.mousetrax.com/dian/angels.html
>>> http://www.uswardogs.org/
>>>
>>> Free Computer Tutorials: http://www.techtrax.us
>>> Free Word Tricks eBook: http://www.mousetrax.com/books.html
>>> Learn VBA the easy way: http://www.mousetrax.com/techcourses.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of John Grierson
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 9:32 AM
>>> To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [mso] Margins in Landscape printing
>>>
>>> I have noticed an anomaly (I think!) in the setting of margins for
>>> landscape
>>> printing.
>>> Using Portrait and Page Setup, deleting all margins and allowing
Word
> to
>>> set
>>> the minimums I get Top .17cm Bottom 1.28cm
>>>
>>> Use Landscape in the same way Left .17cm Right 1.28cm
>>>
>>> Problem is that the leading edge of the paper is Top in Portrait
and
>>> Right
>>> in Landscape but the figures differ - Word appears to have
reversed
> the
>>> figures for Left and Right in Landscape.
>>>
>>> Any help much appreciated.
>>>
>>> Happy New Year to everyone who has contributed to informative and
>>> entertaining reading during the past year.
>>>
>>> John Grierson
>>>
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