[mso] Re: Margins in Landscape printing

  • From: "Graham Jones" <agjones@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 17:11:06 -0000

Hi there all
This won't be any help at all I'm afraid but, in my humble opinion, your 
Lexmark response is typical of the "dedicated" IT expert pass-the-buck, 
gobble-de-gook rubbish that is prevalent everywhere these days.

I am suffering from medically-recognised depression, anxiety, stress etc., 
after a lot of personal/professional hassles over the past n-squared years but, 
really, they have us all by the "short-and-curlies" and I HATE it!

Haven't contributed for a while, but read everyday, and Happy New Year to all 
by the way.

Graham



-----Original Message-----
From: mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of John Grierson
Sent: Fri 09/01/2009 10:30
To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [mso] Re: Margins in Landscape printing
 
Thanks for all comments. Tried downloading the latest Lexmark driver and to 
my horror the LeftHand edge is now the leading edge through the printer. 
Re-installed the original driver but no change.

Managed to contact Lexmark who inform me:

"The software you are using has the responsibility of setting the margins,
paper orientation, etc. Even if you change the paper setup in the printer
driver the software will override the margin or orientation settings if it
is set to something different. I would suggest going to the software help
section and determining how to change the margins/orientation/paper size.
This will probably take care of the problem."

Is there perhaps a bit of VBA code I could use in a macro that would force 
the Righthand margin to feed first?

Thanks

John Grierson
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jonathan Drawer" <jdrawer07@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 1:57 AM
Subject: [mso] Re: Margins in Landscape printing


> As another interesting workaround, I have Adobe Essentials and tried 
> printing to a pdf file. Once I selected Adobe pdf as the printer then the 
> margins in Word 2003 could be set to anything, including 0.0. So the Right 
> margin in Landscape could be set to the correct value equal to that of the 
> Top margin in Portrait. The result is printed to a pdf file. The pdf file 
> could then be printed using the installed printer with the margins in the 
> Adobe pdf image appropriate for that printer.
> Of course that doesn't solve the basic problem with the Lexmark printer 
> driver, but it was an interesting test.
>
> Jonathan
>
> --- On Fri, 1/2/09, Dian Chapman <dian@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> From: Dian Chapman <dian@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [mso] Re: Margins in Landscape printing
> To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Friday, January 2, 2009, 12:24 AM
>
> <hee, hee> As a workaround, you can stick all the text in a table cell and
> flip it to the other direction.<shrug> Hey, I'm tryin'. ;-)
>
> Dian D. Chapman
> Technical Consultant, Microsoft MVP
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Jonathan Drawer
> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 4:32 PM
> To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [mso] Re: Margins in Landscape printing
>
> As a test I checked that for Portrait the top of the page is printed first
> from Word 2003 on my HP Deskjet 820Cse. For Landscape the Right side is
> printed first. The blank paper is fed in in the same way for all printing.
> The default margin for the Top (0.04") in Portrait is the same as that for
> the Right in Landscape. The default margin for the Bottom (0.46") in
> Portrait is the same as that for the Left in Landscape. That seems correct
> since the printer permits printing closer to the edge of the paper that
> passes first through the printer (the Top in Portrait and Right in
> Landscape) and requires a larger magin at the end of the paper (the Bottom
> in Portrait and Left in Landscape).
> I can't find anything in the Printer setup allowing the setting of default
> margins so I must assume they are defined in the printer driver as Dian
> indicated. Other web sites also indicate the same. So contacting Lexmark
> about the problem may be the only solution.
>
> Jonathan
>
> --- On Thu, 1/1/09, David Smart <smartware@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> From: David Smart <smartware@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [mso] Re: Margins in Landscape printing
> To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Thursday, January 1, 2009, 3:59 PM
>
> Also check your printer settings.  IIRC it is more normal for the left to 
> be
> the top in landscape.  There might be a way of getting the printer to
> reverse this.
>
> (I can't check at the moment, my printer is about 300 km away from the
> house
> I'm for the next couple of days.)
>
> Regards, Dave S
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Grierson" <griersoft@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 4:45 AM
> Subject: [mso] Re: Margins in Landscape printing
>
>
>> Thanks for that Dian. Unfortunately I have got the latest driver - but I
>> will let Lexmark know about this
>>
>> John Grierson
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Dian Chapman" <dian@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 4:38 PM
>> Subject: [mso] Re: Margins in Landscape printing
>>
>>
>>> You may want to check and update your print driver. Word gets it's
> "data"
>>> from the driver installed for the printer you have. So
> "Word" didn't
>>> reverse
>>> anything...the data being received to Word is apparently incorrect.
> I.e.,
>>> the programmers who wrote the code for the printer > Word
>>> connection...messed up!
>>>
>>> Go to the web site for your printer and see if there is a new version
> for
>>> your printer. Chances are someone else discovered the problem and they
>>> fixed
>>> it in an update. Download the NEWEST version of the print driver
>>> available
>>> for your particular printer. Install it and give it another shot.
>>>
>>> Dian D. Chapman
>>> Technical Consultant, Microsoft MVP
>>> MOS Certified Instructor, Editor/TechTrax Ezine
>>> Tech Editor for Word & Office 2007 Bibles
>>> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Dian.Chapman
>>>
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>>> http://www.mousetrax.com/dian/angels.html
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>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of John Grierson
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 9:32 AM
>>> To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [mso] Margins in Landscape printing
>>>
>>> I have noticed an anomaly (I think!) in the setting of margins for
>>> landscape
>>> printing.
>>> Using Portrait and Page Setup, deleting all margins and allowing Word
> to
>>> set
>>> the minimums I get Top .17cm Bottom 1.28cm
>>>
>>> Use Landscape in the same way Left .17cm Right 1.28cm
>>>
>>> Problem is that the leading edge of the paper is Top in Portrait and
>>> Right
>>> in Landscape but the figures differ - Word appears to have reversed
> the
>>> figures for Left and Right in Landscape.
>>>
>>> Any help much appreciated.
>>>
>>> Happy New Year to everyone who has contributed to informative and
>>> entertaining reading during the past year.
>>>
>>> John Grierson
>>>
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