Hi Gary Setting up for vacuum brakes is fairly straight forward but you are going to need some 'extra' parts. Firstly you need a vacuum ejector, available from all the usual suppliers. These come in small, medium and large flavors. If you are going to have a 12 coach train go for the large one, otherwise I'd stay with a medium. The danger of having an ejector that is to large is one of overpowering the brake valve, basically you can create the vacuum faster than you can destroy it. This can also be minimized by ensuring the brake valve you use has a 'lap position. When the brake is in the 'lap' position the ejector should be isolated from the train pipe. The ejector needs a steam supply from the boiler so a spare valve on the manifold is necessary, but you will also need to provide an exhaust for it. Some people plumb this into the smokebox others just let it exit from a pipe under the cab. Full boiler pressure is fine but low boiler pressure will cause problems as the ejector will not function correctly giving a low vacuum and hence dragging brakes. Most clubs vacuum brakes work at 10inch of mercury and model ejectors are capable of creating a higher vacuum than this so you will need a vacuum relief valve to prevent damage. This should be positioned on the engine. A vacuum gauge is the next thing you are going to need and this should be connected to the train pipe. Model engineer carried an article on vacuum brakes some years ago I will see if I can find it for you as it explains it all and shows how to 'plumb' it all together. Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: <Garry60030@xxxxxxx> To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 10:44 PM Subject: [modeleng] Re: vacuum brakes Could someone please tell me how easy or difficult it is to set up my loco to operate vacuum braked rolling stock? At the moment I have to use the mechanical brake on the driving trolley but I will soon have the option of using some vacuum braked stock. Do I just need an extra steam valve and if so what steam pressure is needed, if I lose pressure will it still work? or how do I create the vacuum? Thanks Garry MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line. MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.