Hi Bob, Good tips. I use a brass brush to clean files if needed, NOT a steel wire file card. The steel wire ones also break the teeth gradually. Chalk on a file is particularly good before filing aluminum to prevent loading up. Basic benchwork like filing and marking out is becoming a lost art, unfortunately, except in ME circles. Most machinists and toolmakers I work with that are under 30 have very little or no experience in basic bench work, and look to power tools for everything. If they can't finish a job with the power tools, they ask for a design change so they can. Example - squared corners required to fit an electrical switch through a panel. The opening can be cut radiused with the mill or waterjet / laser cutting, then the corners dressed in a few minutes with a file. Lots of times I've been asked either to research and find a new switch which works with radiused corners, or make runouts of the cutter past the square edge to avoid filing the rads. Lots of times I've pulled out a 4" warding file and finished the job in minutes, to stupefied onlookers. Cheers, Jeff Dayman Waterloo Ontario Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Logan" <boblogan@xxxxxxxxx> To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 11:35 PM Subject: [modeleng] Re: Trepanning(?) copper > Regards "files," those hunks of steel to remove metal. Not the nail on the > wall, where you put the power account. > Have you tried, with new files, rubbing a piece of paraffin wax or a candle > along, so as to keep file from blocking up? Also, lift file from job, on > return, as pulling file back on job, you are breaking the teeth. ALWAYS, > have a handle on the tang, and wear a glove on the other hand, or put some > masking tape on the end of the file, if you have tender fingers. Of course > you knew that already. DO NOT bang a file to remove waste from the teeth, > you can fracture the file, causing a ruined job, if the break comes at the > critical time. Bob L. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dennis Rayner" <dennis.rayner@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 7:26 AM > Subject: [modeleng] Re: Trepanning(?) copper > > > > Hi Allen and Jeff, > > > > Thanks for the tips about the cutter profile - worked a treat but I > wouldn't > > want to do too much machining of copper. Sticky, isn't it? > > > > Also - feedback to those who gave me advice on machining my brass chimney > > base. I've got a very acceptable result and I now know which are my sharp > > files and which are not! > > > > Where would I be without access to this group? > > > > Many thanks > > Dennis > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.747 / Virus Database: 499 - Release Date: 1/09/2004 > > MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, > modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line. MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.