Hi All, I have never been a fan of Superheaters as they are a lot of bother to try and increase the efficiency of a machine operating at about 1.5% efficiency if you are lucky. The only thing that they do is dry the steam a bit which means that the exhaust is a bit drier and therefore does not steam my glasses up so much. Regards Clif ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Sheppard Residence" <psbr20252@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 11:43 PM Subject: [modeleng] Re: Superheater trouble > On my Simplex I had a radiant super-heater - it poked up into the top of > the firebox. The tubes were stainless steel as was the return > block/bend (as in the Simplex book). The stainless steel was brazed by > a friend and I silver soldered copper to the stainless at the smokebox > end which itself was silver soldered into the wet and dry headers. > > I don't think that even with the radiant super-heater you dry much of > the steam, so I wouldn't worry about the slide valves, all they need is > lubrication from the steam oil and whether it is wet or slightly damp > makes little difference. > > When I was building my Simplex the debate wasn't about damaging slide > valves, it was whether or not in a 5" gauge locomotive that the > super-heater had any effect anyway! > > Cheers > > Peter > > Does that make sense? > > Cheers > > Peter > > Gmx22@xxxxxxx wrote: >> Hi all, I don't normally write much here but do read with interest most >> of >> your comments. I am getting on well with a simplex but can't seem to get >> the >> super heater right. The people I have spoken to have two schools of >> thought. 1 >> because it has slide valves Don't use a radiant one something to do with >> wet >> steam being better. make it out of copper. I have just come in from the >> garage having turned another peace of copper tube into scrap, lots of >> heating and >> i just can't get the tight bend required to make it look neat. Other >> school >> of thought is make it radiant using stainless and use thinner tubing 22g >> I >> think. any thoughts on how to bent copper tube or where the hell do I >> get >> stainless from, tried GLR and the guys a Polly. I have seen lots of >> super heaters >> made out of SS and look neat with perfect bends but nobody can tell me >> where >> they got the stuff. >> I have a tube bender but the radius is not small enough and of course it >> is >> metric 10mm and I am using 7/16 18g copper......... well I was! I know >> you >> will probably think how has he got this far if he can't bend copper tube >> but >> things have gone very well up to this point, I just can't afford to keep >> throwing copper in the bin. >> Great site keep up the good work >> Keith >> >> >> >> >> >> MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. >> >> To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, >> modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject >> line. >> >> > > MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, > modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject > line. > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.30/1125 - Release Date: > 11/11/2007 21:50 > MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.