Harry, I attended a lecture barrington hares gave at Birmingham [Eng] University, it was some time ago but I recall him saying that he had grief getting the Merlin to run initially. I also recall him saying that he had originally built the carb internal details to scale which was the source of the problem. When the Merlin did run it did so with a carb that looked scale from the outside but with internals built to run. The blower also works but is inefective. I agree with what you say regarding the model engineer guru's of today but I'm sure that Hares also built his milling machine on which he went on to build the Merlin with. I'm also led to believe that it is very difficult to get Hares to attend any model engineering event to talk / demonstrate his engines .... What a great pity...I've only met him once and on that occasion he seemed an okay sort of bloke. Regards, IP Priest & Sons Model Engineers http://www.kinvermes.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/p1.htm -----Original Message----- From: modeleng-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:modeleng-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Harry Wade Sent: 29 December 2004 15:40 To: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [modeleng] Running models At 08:41 AM 12/29/04 -0000, you wrote: > . . . I don't wish to sound of sour grapes or bad cheese but do any > of her models work, [snip] . . . I point out the work of Barrington Hares who's pieces actually run and run very well. - IP But that wasn't always the case, I recall hearing that dispite all the coverage it got in ME, he had a great deal of difficulty coaxing the Merlin** to run and mum was the word on it for a long while. But it did eventually run and was then retired to glass case duty. The same is the case with COMO**, which was run on air but IIRC was never run on steam and likewise was retired immediately to glass case duty, but this doesn't keep it from being revered as one of the finest loco models ever built. What sets it apart in my mind is the it was built with hand tools, breast drill, and treadle lathe. Of course anything built in 1885-1895 would have been built the same way. It is astounding to me that such a project could have ever been done, what with having no quick change carbide insert tooling, no 14x40 lathe, no Bridgeport, no CNC, no DRO, no EDM, etc. . . . all the things many of our so-called live steam gurus would have us believe we MUST have in order to make so much as a chip these days. Merlin = model of Rolls-Royce Merlin V16 aircraft engine (1/10th scale?) COMO = model of LBSCR 0-6-0 loco, approx 1" scale, built 1885-1898. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release Date: 28/12/2004 MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.