Lee, The gent doesn't want to do the job of 1 000 plus rivets using the rivet snaps. There are/were available manually operated clamps that did the job very quickly and gave a good finish. Maidstone Engineering have just replied to my email of yesterday and they have a kit available for about 39.90 uk Pounds. So I will pass the details on to him later today. Regards, John MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.