At 02:34 PM 10/4/05 +0100, you wrote: >On the other hand, the big stuff doesn't come cheap. There are the >machined parts for a 7=BD Romulus for sale in our club at =A32100. Jem, This is unfortunate but highly specialized technology, even 200 year old technology, isn't coming cheaply any more. I am surprised at the raw cost of the Romulus castings but then I haven't bought castings in a long while. When I was a kid I used to see an occasional piece in my father's D.I.Y. magazine about various old coots, usually out in Califiornia, who built "real working model steam locomotives" and as often as not there was some statement to the effect that it cost "$25,000 in materials alone" and one I recall was even higher, and this in 1950's dollars. Now I recognize these were inflated claims, because I still hear the same claims today. My first locomotive attempt, a Little Engines 4-4-0 (7.5"ga), begun around 1967, remains unfinished for various reasons, although all major components are complete. Although eventually I had a mentor and occasional use of machine tools, I had no machine tools of my own for years after I began it and acquired those bit at a time along the way, But even so I don't think I invested more than about $600, $100 of which at the time was the price of my first lathe. But then once upon a time a new Myford could be had for 69UKP! I'm keeping an accounting of both the time and the material costs of the 7.5"ga TICH I have under construction and I'll be very surprised if I have more than $1k in it at the end. The time investment is another matter.= =20 It should go without saying that many things affect the investment one must lay out in order to have or build a larger scale loco, but mostly it's a function of your available tools/machines and the availability of material resources. If you have sufficient tooling, and sympathetic (or at least not antagonistic) local materials sources, and a bit of skip-diver in you, it can be made a great deal less expensive than if you don't. I was unable to find a picture posting of the Scottie but I'll keep looking. Regards, Harry MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.