Jesse, I don't seem to have such problems. Perhaps there is some kind of gravitational vortex up Al's way which causes things to crawl out of jars. Of course if he lived in Australia all this could be easily explained but I doubt that just being friends or merely corresponding with an Australian would explain it. I heard that once upon a time up Al's way there was quite an active community of amatuer distillers who for generations produced high quality (or at least high potency) medicinal spirits. From time to time accidental spillage occurred which no doubt found its way into the subterranian aquifers and thence into the local drinking water. That would explain a lot of this. Regards, Harry -----Original Message----- >I am beginning to believe that Al Messer lives in something akin to the >Bermuda Triangle, possibly the "Nashville Triangle". MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.