At Sandown and Wembley last year and earlier shows there were crowds around the ModelWorks stand but at Donington a couple of weeks ago there were not. Maybe the publicity machine needs a bit more spin to counter some bad experiences that are widely reported. To our new colleague from another new colleague welcome despite the 60030 in his username (I'm not certain if the steam or diesel loco of that number is worse :) ) and I'd be very interested to have more information about his experiences. As every spammer in the whole wide world knows my email is the_viffer@xxxxxxxxxxxx Just don't give it the usual title: if I responded to a hundreth of 'em I could go to fancy dress parties as a petrol pump. A Red Engine Fan (as the late and much lamented Dick Clements would say) Tim MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.