[modeleng] Re: Modelworks
- From: "Ronald" <Ron@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2004 21:14:30 -0000
The rep. on the Modelworks stand at Donninton told me that the replica of
the Locomobile is in Ireland and added that he did'nt think one could drive
it on the road ,perhaps he ment that in true modelworks tradition the thing
would not work anyhow.
----- Original Message -----
From: "alanjstepney" <alan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 3:09 AM
Subject: [modeleng] Re: Modelworks
This is based upon a model, made by someone in, I believe, Sweden, which is,
in turn, based upon the original Locomobile.
Modelworks themselves admit they haven't built one (So what's new??), and
when questioned about its liability for road regulations such as Type
Approval etc, claimed that they didn't think it would be safe to actually
drive it !!!!
(Giving them the benefit of the doubt, I suspect they meant, "drive it on
the road".)
Even so, at over £10,000 one would and should, expect that it would be
satisfactory and COULD be driven on road, if the owner so chose.
One more thing about Modelworks.
As most people know, when Winsons went into liquidation, the assets and
business was bought by Modelworks International Ltd.
That was the company that was advertising, and selling until recently.
Now, it is Modelworks International Sales Ltd, and entirely different
company. "Sales" was only incorporated in February 2003, whereas Modelworks
was incorporated in April 2001.
Now, there could be a valid reason for the Directors of Modelworks to trade
through a different company from the one that bought the machinery, stock,
designs, etc of Winsons. Many large and successful organisations have a
number of subsidiaries for a variety of reasons.
What I should wish to know if I was placing an order with them, is who is
the contract (order) actually with?
Who owns the assets?
What is the worth of the company I am dealing with?
The reason being that, in the event of its failure, it is those assets that
will be sold and the proceeds distributed
among the creditors, which would include any customers who had paid deposits
etc.
As "Sales" was at Donington, one must assume that an order placed there
would have been with them.
I wonder what the relationship is between them and the original company?
All questions which prudent prospective buyers should ask and ensure they
have answers to.
alan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.alanstepney.info
Model Engineering, Steam Engine, and Railway technical pages.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Clif Walker" <clif.gwr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 10:30 PM
Subject: [modeleng] Modelworks
Hi All,
I see that Modelworks are now advertising a kit for a full size steam car.
Anybody want to quote odds on one ever getting on the road?
Regards
Clif
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