> It would seem to me that the fly by wire system is great until something > goes wrong and then the automation will try to override the Pilots knee > jerk > reaction to correct it. ie the Airbus that insisted going right when the > pilot wanted left and the one that went terminally down when the pilot > wanted up. Clif, I don't recall reading anything authoratative about these incidents but I do recall reading the accident report into the Airbus that crashed into woods after doing a very low and slow pass at an air display. The inbuilt safety systems would not allow them to do the low, slow pass so they pulled several circuit breakers to disable them despite the fact that they had a full load of passengers (employees of Airbus) on board. The pilot in command was the Chief Test Pilot for Airbus Industries and his last word on the cockpit voice recorder was "merde!". He was sacked. > I still think that like power steering on cars the person in control needs > some tactile feedback Feedback is provided on all current power assisted flying control systems. It was only the very early, military systems that didn't feature feedback. Barrie MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.