A while ago there was a thread on boilers in this group particularly about stainless steel.v.copper. I said that Mike Palmer (Station Road Steam) had an article about boilers a few months ago, but I couldn't find it. Well his archive has re-appeared, and I hope he doesn't mind, but I've repeated his "axioms" on boilers below: Cheers Peter Museum quality engines are all in museums If it hasn't got a boiler certificate the boiler's dead If it has got a boiler certificate the boiler may well be dead (boilers fail in service, not on the mantelpiece. If they're being used, they're probably in ticket, at which point they become a dead engine with a current boiler certificate) If you're not allowed to go and see an engine before buying, it's either nicked or in a lot of trouble Caveat emptor, as they say. MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.