Re: [MoAccess] Sharing Motif stuff

  • From: Bryan Smart <bryansmart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 07:20:16 -0400

Maybe so. A long time back, Athan had offered to work on getting me a space on 
Motifator, if I thought that would help. However, the way that site is built, 
we'd have to e-mail files and some other elements to Keyfax for posting. I 
don't think that it would be easy for us to put stuff online outselves.

Beyond that, my general feeling is that blind people don't use web forums that 
well. I can use them, but don't enjoy them. Many blind screen reader users that 
I encounter, though, can't use them at all. It is worth checking on again, 
though. I doubt that you all would rather swap out the e-mail list for a web 
forum. I think that participation would drop.

Bryan

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From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Damon Fibraio
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 11:36 AM
To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Sharing Motif stuff

Long shot, but maybe a forum on motifator.com? I mean, it is motif related 
after all. Besides, maybe some of the sighted people over there could use those 
templates, too. 
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-----Original Message-----
From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Bryan Smart
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 11:34 AM
To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Sharing Motif stuff

No one is hosting the site. It is too much work for people to do it for free. 
We have to do something simple, or else we're not going to have anything. I 
mean, I can pretty much teach myself and make my own stuff, but I'm just trying 
to help others out.

I don't think that we'd be sharing all that much on the DropBox. Notes and 
manuals and instrument defs hardly take any space. If we put audio tutorials up 
there, then maybe some room would be involved.

If you're using it for business, though, you should pay the $8.25 or what-ever 
per month to upgrade your 2GB to a full plan. Those have 50 or 
100GB...something crazy like that.

I don't know. You can always just not participate if it will take too much 
space, but this is all I can think of.

The fact of it is, nothing happens without money. Either one of us makes some 
big central site, using our own resources and time, and hopes that others can 
chip in, or else we spread the cost around. I offer to host the folder. If 
people want to put stuff in it, then they can get on DropBox and drop it in. If 
they are new to Motif, and want access, they can pay $9 or what-ever to get the 
space from DropBox to have access to the files.

I just don't see a way to do it much easier. If you know of something that 
would work better, then we should check it out. Big web sites and online 
communities are out, though. Needs to be some super simple turn-key portal, or 
file sharing thing, etc.

Bryan

-----Original Message-----
From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of clarence griffin
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 11:21 AM
To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Sharing Motif stuff

I don't know if dropbox is the way to go because if I only have the standard
2 gigs to work with anything in the moaccess folder will add to my usage.
And I use my dropbox for business. I don't know if I want to use any of my 
bandwidth to put up docs that I may or may not use. I don't have an es any more 
and if I can help it, I would like to keep my es and classic stuff some ware 
else. but if I don't have room and need it, I would have to delete stuff from 
drop box folders that I am not using to make room for client work and what not. 
Is there maybe another way we can do this? What happened to the site, who is 
hosting that now?

Just my thoughts.
I hope we can come up with something that everyone can work with.

GF


On Sep 14, 2010, at 10:48 AM, Bryan Smart wrote:

> I've already said on here that I have an XF. Of course, I'm already 
> doing
interesting things with it.
> 
> I've written SysEx commands that can switch it in to song mode, 
> initialize
the song's mix, dump in an initialized mix with no reverb, tell the XF to 
transmit its current mix settings to Sonar, etc. I make these and then place 
them in to the SysEx view of my Sonar projects, particularly my templates.
Why is this useful? When I open up my template for sequencing with the Motif, 
Sonar is able to put the XF in to song mode automatically, and setup the mix. 
That saves button pushing.
> 
> For that matter, I have Sonar templates built up for working with the
Motif. If you have an audio interface with a spdif input port, you can connect 
the Motif to that, and, when you use the template, you'll get a stereo mix from 
the Motif, via the digital spdif connection, that appears on a bus. Why does 
this matter? You don't need to do any of that crappy process of tracking in 
your Motif MIDI parts, at least to get a basic mix-down of your song. As long 
as you do a real-time export, the digital output of the Motif's mix, together 
with any existing audio tracks and softsynths, will just be mixed together in 
to the output file. It's organized, too. When you start the template, you can 
just start adding MIDI tracks and playing, without thinking about where to 
route what. The templates have the SysEx setup commands that I made already 
loaded.
> 
> Anyway, I have other stuff. I've worked out the supported CCs and 
> SysEx
commands from the XF data list, and made some other notes.
> 
> I don't mind sharing this stuff at all. I make this stuff for me, 
> anyway,
so if someone else can use it, that's great. However, I don't want to maintain 
a site, and I'd rather not send stuff one-off.
> 
> There are some smart people on this list. How can we share in such a 
> way
that doesn't require a lot of work? I thought that we could put up a Wiki, and 
let everyone upload to, and edit on that, but many people will never bother 
taking the time to learn how to write and edit on a Wiki. Maybe something dumb 
simple like a shared DropBox folder is the way to go. If we have notes or 
recordings, or files to help, we just throw it up there. No web site 
maintenance, no security and hackers, no long editing of sites and such. If 
someone new joins the group, we just add them to the DropBox folder.
> 
> There might be a better way. If anyone has any ideas, then speak up. 
> It
just has got to be simple. If it takes lots of time to coordinate or maintain, 
then it's useless.
> 
> Bryan
> 
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For links to all Motif info for blind owners, visit www.MoAccess.info.
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www.freelists.org/list/moaccess.

For links to all Motif info for blind owners, visit www.MoAccess.info.
To change your list options and view archives for the MoAccess list, visit 
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For links to all Motif info for blind owners, visit www.MoAccess.info.
To change your list options and view archives for the MoAccess list, visit 
www.freelists.org/list/moaccess.

For links to all Motif info for blind owners, visit www.MoAccess.info.
To change your list options and view archives for the MoAccess list, visit 
www.freelists.org/list/moaccess.

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