Re: [MoAccess] Motif XS, MIDI Problem

  • From: "D!J!X!" <megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 21:30:06 -0400

Hey Benjamin, the motif voices are all accessible through midi, you just
need to wait till that ins file is released, then you'll be able to access
all the sounds in the motif through sonar.  The ins basically sends the
motif the same commands that the panel buttons would when selecting voices,
you don't miss out on anything.  You would generally want to record in midi
first, then play those tracks back and send them to the daw as audio.  This
allows you to quantize, copy and paste parts, edit notes and stuff, etc
etc...  With audio once recorded, that's it!  You can use the arps in sonar,
look up on motifator, the motif arps and how to use them, at least for the
es are explain in the behind the manual section; I imagine for the sx it
should be easier...but yes, you usually want to start out with midi and then
turn to audio, unless you are using loops from the beginning of the project,
which would already be audio files...

HTH, D!J!X!

-----Original Message-----
From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Benjamin Blatter
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 4:56 PM
To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Motif XS, MIDI Problem

Really? Let me explain what I'm thinking:
MIDI has only 128 sounds. But when you record Audio sounds, par example
through the MLan connection, you can use every voice of the whole motif, I
guess about 1000? And also the arpeggiator and of course the effects which
makes the sounds of the XS so real.




----- Original Message -----
From: "Christopher Kchao" <thisischris89@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Motif XS, MIDI Problem


> Hi,
> If i understand you correctly, I think you're under the impression that 
> you don't have the ability to play all the patches in the motif when using

> QWS. This is only because you can't easily access them without the 
> instrument definition or actually knowing the bank/patch numbers. Using 
> sonar is not going to give you access to more sounds on the motif.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Benjamin Blatter" <b.blatter@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 3:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Motif XS, MIDI Problem
>
>
>> Never mind, in this case I should concentrate more on sonar and audio 
>> connection. I realised that you can't play the greath waveforms of the 
>> motif XS, when using the MIDI sounds.
>>
>> How do you move in Sonar through your recorded sounds? Is it simple to 
>> delete mistakes?
>>
>> Benjamin
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Bryan Smart" <bryansmart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 3:27 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Motif XS, MIDI Problem
>>
>>
>> Ooops. I didn't catch that you wanted to use the Motif with QWS. This
>> version only works with Sonar.
>>
>> There isn't an instrument definition list for QWS. If one is made, you
>> might have to be the one to make it. There aren't many QWS users when
>> compared to something like Sonar, and there are a smaller number of
>> those QWS users that have a Motif XS. If you make instrument
>> definitions, though, I'll be glad to post them.
>>
>> Bryan
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Benjamin Blatter
>> Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 9:45 AM
>> To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Motif XS, MIDI Problem
>>
>> Ow, I'm so stupid. I'm a little bit more then blind ;-) Thank you.
>>
>> I'm a beginner in this stuff and maybewrong. But I think, this list
>> isn't usable yet. I can't import it in QWS. I opened it and saw that a
>> few things are missing, like bank numbers.
>>
>> Does this list work in sonar?
>>
>> Benjamin
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Bryan Smart" <bryansmart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 12:20 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Motif XS, MIDI Problem
>>
>>
>> Hey, come on. How can you not know where the instrument definitions are
>> located? They're in the Resources section on MoAccess.info, and I only
>> talk about them two or three times a week <smile>.
>>
>> Bryan
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of D!J!X!
>> Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 1:41 AM
>> To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Motif XS, MIDI Problem
>>
>> Unfortunately jaws and cubase don't work too good, sonar is the only
>> most accessible package you'll find...  I did try googling the sx ins
>> file and couldn't find anything, so the other alternative is to use the
>> data list for the sx and look at bank numbers and voice numbers and
>> stuff and send them to sonar that way, by inserting a patch change even
>> or something...I'm surprised, I'd imagine someone would have made one by
>> now...
>>
>> HTH, D!J!X!
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> On Behalf Of Benjamin Blatter
>> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 4:47 PM
>> To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Motif XS, MIDI Problem
>>
>> Hi!
>> No, I don't have the instrument definitions for the XS. I think, it
>> isn't available yet. Par example on motifator.com you can find these
>> lists for any Motifs, but not for the XS.
>>
>> I guess, I have to wait. Anyway, I also want to record audio tracks. I
>> haven't sonar. But with my motif XS I got Cubase AI. Is this program
>> also good for Jaws?
>>
>> Benjamin
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "D!J!X!" <megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 12:24 AM
>> Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Motif XS, MIDI Problem
>>
>>
>>> Hello, do you have the sx's instrument definitions for sonar?  If so,
>>> import
>>> it using the options>instruments>port number/channel>define>import.
>> Then
>>> you can use  the track properties to navigate to the specific bank,
>>> and select the specific instrument.  They should be labeled; at least
>>> on the es file they are labeled, as pre1-6, user1-3, plg1-3, pre
>>> drums, user drums, etc etc. If you haven't gotten the sx ins file,
>>> search for it on google (I'm not sure if it's even available yet; I
>>> would imagine so) or if you have it and haven't imported, let me know
>>> if you need help with it.
>>>
>>> HTH, D!J!X!
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>> On Behalf Of Benjamin Blatter
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 5:15 PM
>>> To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Motif XS, MIDI Problem
>>>
>>> Hi!
>>> You're so greath! That was the problem! Thank you very much!
>>>
>>> Do you know, which Program or bank Number are in MIDI used to create
>>> Drums?
>>> Par example, I want to add Drums to a song.
>>> I know that mostly Drums are on kanal 10. But which program?
>>>
>>> Benjamin
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "D!J!X!" <megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 10:54 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [MoAccess] Motif XS, MIDI Problem
>>>
>>>
>>>> Are you in song or pattern mode in the motif sx?  You have to be in
>>>> multitimberal  mode, which are song or pattern, in order to hear more
>>
>>>> than
>>>
>>>> 1
>>>> instrument/voice out of the motif...
>>>>
>>>> HTH, D!J!X!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:moaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>> On Behalf Of Benjamin Blatter
>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 4:44 PM
>>>> To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [MoAccess] Motif XS, MIDI Problem
>>>>
>>>> Hi Everyone!
>>>>
>>>> Finally I got my Motif XS 8! I waited since July ...
>>>>
>>>> My Problem: I installed the USB Driver for MIDI Connection. But the
>>>> MIDI-In doesn't work probperly. I can always only hear one
>>>> instrument.
>>>> My biggest wish: I would like to open MIDI-Files with the Quick
>>>> Windows Sequencer  QWS, modify them and create own songs.
>>>>
>>>> I already activated the USB to Host in the Motif XS. Is there
>>>> something else I should do?
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards
>>>> Benjamin
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