Judy "Blob" removal was a great improvement. All of the edits you made improved the overall impact of the photo. Thanks for taking the time to do the critique. Always learn from your experience in PP. I can see the need for "extra" PP capability beyond what I am using but am reluctant to pull the trigger on new investments in programs and time investment in learning an entirely new way of working. I know your answer to that. I tried Robert's suggestion to try a horizontal crop and do like that but it created the problem of more empty space and more cloning out of the blue areas as per your suggestion. The results of my cloning efforts are clumsy at best. With these birds, because of their frenetic activity, there is very little chance to alter your camera position to improve backgrounds or sun angles. What you see is what you get and PP is necessary sometimes to at least salvage a good action or behavioral shot. I liked Robert's suggestion--to get lower to maybe prevent some of the reflections (blue spots)--but on that morning I was sitting on a five gallon can under a throw over hide in a very weedy and muddy situation, reluctant to get prone and possibly be at eye level with a wandering cottonmouth. Need to toughen up I guess. Anyway---all that unnecessary commentary aside--when I do take the plunge into Lightroom and Topaz, I will probably be calling on you to engage your services to teach me how to use these tools effectively and efficiently. LP On Thursday, October 10, 2013 7:23 PM, Robert Smith <rsmithent@xxxxxxx> wrote: Oooh - looks really nice to me, Larry, and I wish it were mine. I've waited to comment until I got back onto my computer so that I could see the image at better size/resolution. I agree with Judy on her comments & edits (and really like the hint about negative sharpening!). To me, I might have taken a slightly different tack (not knowing exactly what was around the image area that we CAN'T see), but I might have gone horizontal with the empty room on the image left (in front of the bird), with the bird and reflection on the right-hand thirds line. That would have avoided the out-of-focus bird & blue blob at the top & given the bird some more room to seem to be moving into... (Shooting active birds, you don't always have time to switch orientation or that might have been something worse than those blobs to that side, so that might not have worked). I really like the exposure overall with good detail in the bird and reflection. The bright spots on the water are a distraction, but without a polarizer, those could have been tough to avoid (though getting lower might have reduced them to some degree?). I really like the action & pose as well. Thanks for helping keep this group active! Robert Robert Smith rsmithent@xxxxxxx www.photobiologist.com ________________________________ Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 08:33:46 -0700 From: larrypace64@xxxxxxxxx Subject: [missbirdphotos] Critique To: missbirdphotos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Hi guys Haven't heard much from our photographers lately. Everyone must be very busy! With the recent rains and the Government shutdown, my usual, reliably productive spots are either unaccessible or flooded. I have been going over some of the photos I shot in September and trying out new PP techniques (primarily retouching tools). Of course. as usual, I am never completely satisfied with the results. I am attaching a photograph of a Least Sandpiper that was very active in "chasing" its neighbors as they were feeding. If I could get you guys to look very closely at the photo and give me some feedback, based on what you prefer in a photo, that would be very instructive for me. Give some attention to all of the qualities you like in a bird photo. I have a really thick skin so be straight forward with your opinions--comments. Consider both technical and esthetic aspects of photo.