[minima] Re: New Crystal Filter

  • From: Ashhar Farhan <farhanbox@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "minima@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <minima@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2014 00:49:35 +0530

here is my scan of a 40 mhz filter. (see the spur hump).

- f

On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Joe Rocci <joe@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>  Farhan
>
> You asked for the motional parameters and I quoted from memory. I was a
> wee bit off, but for the most part, very close.
>
> As I said previously, when embedded a single xtal in a 20 ohm test bed,
> loss was about 1.6 db, BW3db was approx 3300 hz and Fp was approx 50 khz
> above Fs. From these, we can derive the following
>
> Lm = .002387
> Cm = .00663235 pf
> Q = 50,000
> Rs = 10
> Cp = 2.8pf
>
> Please note as I said earlier, I did no sorting or matching. I just
> grabbed 8 xtals out of the bag and it worked right out of the gate.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> *From:* farhanbox@xxxxxxxxx
> *To:* joe@xxxxxxxxxx ; minima@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 09, 2014 8:22 PM
> *Subject:* [minima] Re: New Crystal Filter
>
>  joe,
>
> while developing the minima, i did try a 40 mhz ssb filter. i will send
> the scan to you as soon as i get to my laptop. i had three issues with them:
>
> 1. these are not available in the local market.
>
> 2. they had a number of spurious responses. trya full hf scan to see if
> you get them too.
>
> 3. not more then 60 db stop band.
>
> your filter does look very good. what are the motional parameters?
>
> - f
>
> ------ Original message------
>
> *From: *Joe Rocci
>
> *Date: *Wed, 10 Sep 2014 05:40
>
> *To: *minima@xxxxxxxxxxxxx;
>
> *Subject:*[minima] Re: New Crystal Filter
> Steve
>
> Made by ECS and others...sold by Digikey, Mouser and others here in US.
> These are thru hole parts, about a 1/2 size low profile HC49. Should be a
> drop in replacement on the existing PCB.
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>  Sent from my tablet
>
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>
> -------- Original message --------
> From Steve VK2SJA >  <%3Cvk2sja@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: 09/09/2014 7:22 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To minima@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <+minima@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject [minima] Re: New Crystal Filter
>
>
> Joe,
>
> Great news!
>
> Higher frequency fundamental crystals for the filter at or above 30 Mhz
> was one of my first thoughts. But when I went looking, and I looked
> reasonably hard I thought... (obviously not), I couldn't find any crystals
> to suit.
>
> Can you give us a supplier name and part number?
>
> Are these crystals SMD? What package style?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Steve.
>
> PS. First day back at work after being knocked out of action all last
> weekend with the flu. So no further mixer building/testing has happened at
> this QTH. Have been following the ongoing experiments with great interest.
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