[macvoiceover] Re: problem with VO and edit fields
- From: Joel Zimba <zimbameister@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:23:17 -0500
I'm am glad to know it's not just me.
I will try to pull up my nanowrimo document later on tonight. I knew I ought
not try to write a book and learn a new computing environment all at the same
time. but hey, I work well under pressure.
I have now noticed that in some large multi-page documents, (at least in Pages)
I can interract with different pages of the document.)
though if I do not interract, it appears to put my text where the insertion
point is regardless of i
interraction... as it were.
back to the drawing board.
Joel
Nov 19, 2009, at 5:14 PM, David Poehlman wrote:
> Joel;
>
> The reason the edit area is automatically interacted with is that there are
> three things in the window and the vo cursor is placed in the most likely
> needed place. I don't have problems with typing in text edit even though my
> vo is interacting. as far as text edit is concerned, and perhaps other apps
> as well, you can turn off the ruler and other things in preferences which you
> can get to with command-comma and that may help. also, go to the window menu
> and click zoom to see if that improves things as well. We have two folk
> including you and Carline so far that seem to be having this issue and I'm
> not sure what is going on. It might be necessary to have a walk through of
> preferences.
>
> On Nov 19, 2009, at 5:07 PM, Joel Zimba wrote:
>
> Hi David,
>
> I just discovered something a bit confusing. It looks as though when I start
> textedit an Pages, I am interracting with a scroll-area initially.
>
> I can stop interracting with it and my text still goes in to the proper place
> and as I have the vo cursor set to track the insertion point and or the
> keyboard focus, it seems to read properly. I have not tried typing multiple
> pages to see if this changes the behavior.
>
> I am confused as to why it starts of interracting in some applications and
> not in others.
> I need to refine my model of what is actually going on here.
>
> cheers,
>
> Joel
>
> On Nov 18, 2009, at 1:18 PM, David Poehlman wrote:
>
>> Hi Joel;
>>
>> If you are running snow leopard, there is only one thing I can think of that
>> might be giving you this type of problem. in vo utility, under navigation,
>> set mouse cursor to ignores voiceover cursor and that should fix it.
>>
>> otherly, make sure that you are not interacting and make sure that quick nav
>> is turned off.
>>
>> Let us know if you need more help and how it goes.
>>
>> Nice to see you here.
>>
>> On Nov 18, 2009, at 1:10 PM, Joel Zimba wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I have had my mbp for two weeks now and I mostly love it. there is one huge
>> problem I am having.
>>
>> edit wndows. like in textedit or mail or Pages all seem to lose focus or
>> to wrap to the top of the window while I type.
>>
>> I ca onl think this is a VO issue or my configuration it can't possibly be
>> normal functionality. sometimes it seems to happen at the end of pages,
>> where instead of running to a new line, the insertion point goes to the top
>> of the page. other times the window loses focus and goes to a menu option.
>>
>> It is inconsistent. It has not happened in this mesage as of yet.
>>
>> I thought I was hitting the trackpad, but that is not the case.
>>
>> any help would be appreciated.
>>
>> I think the Mac world is more similar than different and I ave greatly
>> enjoyed the challenge of te past days.
>>
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> Joel
>>
>>
>> On Nov 18, 2009, at 12:25 PM, ashley wrote:
>>
>>> yes!!!
>>>
>>> ash
>>> Personal website:
>>> www.ashleycox.co.uk
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russell Solowoniuk"
>>> <rsolowoniuk@xxxxxxx>
>>> To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 4:32 AM
>>> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: mail question
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> RussellAgreed! It is easy to accidentally turn it on!
>>> On 2009-11-17, at 6:14 AM, David Poehlman wrote:
>>>
>>>> we need a configuration option to disable quick nav.
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 17, 2009, at 8:13 AM, Russell Solowoniuk wrote:
>>>>
>>>> You're welcome Carlene. I've had quick nav turn on accidentally... not
>>>> sure how it happened, but I didn't intentionally turn it on, and after
>>>> fighting with the problems you mentioned in Mail, checked the quick nav
>>>> keys only to find that they were turned on.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Russell
>>>> On 2009-11-16, at 10:31 PM, carlene knight wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Russell. I seldom use QuickNav, but thanks for the suggestion.
>>>>> It's good to know that the problem exists when tabbing between the panes
>>>>> as well.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 16, 2009, at 8:10 PM, Russell Solowoniuk wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Carlene,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I use the preview pane and tab from the message table into the message
>>>>>> content, and sometimes run into this. I end up in the header area and
>>>>>> can't get out, so have to close mail and open it again. I did notice
>>>>>> that one time when this happened, I had turned on quick Nav in Safari
>>>>>> and forgot to turn it back off, so this was causing the problem.
>>>>>> Something to check when you encounter this next time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> HTH
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Russell
>>>>>> On 2009-11-16, at 7:13 PM, carlene knight wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have recently encountered an ongoing problem when viewing mail. It
>>>>>>> seems as though the cursor jumps all over the place instead of going
>>>>>>> from the preview pain to the message body when using vo/j. I might end
>>>>>>> up in status, headers, or scroll area. It's getting quite annoying. I
>>>>>>> have all of the cursors following each other except that the mouse
>>>>>>> cursor ignores the Voiceover cursor. That's the way I've had it for a
>>>>>>> long time, longer than the problem has existed. It seems as though the
>>>>>>> problem is getting worse every day. Any ideas? thanks.>
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