Hi folks, Marcy is really on track here! Please send every little detale to accessibility@xxxxxxxxx The more information they have the sooner they can fix this thing. Keith Reedy On Nov 23, 2009, at 11:31 AM, Marcy Weinberg wrote: > Did you send the report in to Apple when mail crashed? That's extremely > important to do. Marcy > On Nov 22, 2009, at 10:19 PM, Brett Campbell wrote: > >> Just to pitch in a penny, I'm experiencing the same issue. >> >> >> Brett >> >> On Nov 22, 2009, at 7:56 PM, Russell Solowoniuk <rsolowoniuk@xxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>> Hey Keith, >>> >>> Well, the next time you're on your SL machine give it a try and let us know >>> what happens! I'm curious to see if everyone running SL is encountering >>> this! >>> >>> Thanks Keith, >>> Russell Solowoniuk >>> rsolowoniuk@xxxxxxx >>> >>> >>> >>> On 2009-11-22, at 2:53 PM, Keith Reedy wrote: >>> >>>> I don't know if I am having the problem, I was using the laptop which has >>>> Leopard on it. >>>> >>>> Keith Reedy >>>> On Nov 22, 2009, at 3:17 PM, Russell Solowoniuk wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Keith, >>>>> >>>>> Unfortunately my solution was short lived! I can no longer re-produce >>>>> this. Now, whenever I go back into signatures, even if I go the opposite >>>>> direction, Mail crashes. I too have Mouse ignores VO, so not sure why >>>>> you're not having this problem too! >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Russell >>>>> Russell Solowoniuk >>>>> rsolowoniuk@xxxxxxx >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 2009-11-22, at 12:33 PM, Keith Reedy wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Russell, >>>>>> >>>>>> You are getting to be quite a problem solver, good catch. Sounds like a >>>>>> focus issue which maybe fixed by routing your mouse. And it may depend >>>>>> on how you have set your mouse in navigation, weather to follow VO, >>>>>> ignore VO, or, move VO to the mouse. Just a couple of guesses, but, a >>>>>> place to start. >>>>>> >>>>>> And please report it. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have set mine back to ignore the Voiceover cursor. >>>>>> >>>>>> Keith Reedy >>>>>> On Nov 22, 2009, at 1:27 PM, Russell Solowoniuk wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi again Marcy & all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I once again tried to create a second signature, but this time, instead >>>>>>> of pressing VO right arrow to move through the choices, I pressed VO >>>>>>> left arrow and sort of went through the various choices in a backward >>>>>>> way, sometimes pressing shift tab, and was able to create a second >>>>>>> signature without the crash... very strange behaviour! <smiles> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Russell >>>>>>> Russell Solowoniuk >>>>>>> rsolowoniuk@xxxxxxx >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2009-11-22, at 10:08 AM, Russell Solowoniuk wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Marcy & all, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I just tried creating a signature, with the following results: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1. I was able to create a signature with no crash. I didn't have any >>>>>>>> signature set up, so this was my first one. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2. When I went back into preferences and signatures, and tried to >>>>>>>> create a second signature, Mail crashed, and does so every time I try >>>>>>>> to create a second signature... very odd! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks Marcy for finding this apparent bug! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Russell >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Russell Solowoniuk >>>>>>>> rsolowoniuk@xxxxxxx >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 2009-11-22, at 8:19 AM, Marcy Weinberg wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Then try it now and let us know, okay? Marcy >>>>>>>>> On Nov 22, 2009, at 9:09 AM, Keith Reedy wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I have tried it in SL, but, its one of those things I don't try with >>>>>>>>>> each update, grin, smile. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Keith Reedy >>>>>>>>>> On Nov 22, 2009, at 6:41 AM, Marcy Weinberg wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi, Keith, >>>>>>>>>>> Have you tried it in sl, or since the latest update? Marcy >>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 21, 2009, at 11:02 PM, Keith Reedy wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Well, not today, my hands have been unusually busy for a Saturday. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Keith Reedy >>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 21, 2009, at 9:14 PM, Marcy Weinberg wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, Keith, >>>>>>>>>>>>> I take it you tested this out again today? Marcy >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 21, 2009, at 9:08 PM, Keith Reedy wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marcy, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have never had this happen, hmmm. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you have the instructions that Cheryl sent out. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keith Reedy >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 21, 2009, at 1:41 PM, Marcy Weinberg wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, all! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I tried to create a signature in mail earlier. I was able to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> choose the email client in the signatures table, and hit the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new signature button. I named the signature in the edit field, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but when I stopped interacting, which was necessary, and used >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vo to get to the next thing to do, mail crashed. This happened >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> every time I tried, and I chose to send a report to Apple. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Has anyone else experienced this? 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