[macvoiceover] Re: VMware again another issue.
- From: VaShaun Jones <vashaun.jones@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 13:34:10 -0400
OK, but two things. One can you contact me off list 770.331.8006 and two can't
you now do a virtual machine with Mac in Fusion?
On Sep 21, 2011, at 10:25 AM, Sean Murphy wrote:
> HI,
> I think a how to guide needs to be developed for VMWare Fusion. If I get
> time on my holidays. I will put a rough draft together and post it here.
>
> Sean
>
>
>
> On 21/09/2011, at 6:01 AM, VaShaun Jones wrote:
>
>> OK, can someone direct me to a list of VM Wear keystrokes that I can use. I
>> remember Command G to grab focus but that seems to no longer work. I have a
>> Bootcamp partition that I'm trying to use but I don't know how to access it
>> and hear JAWS. Also how do I find out about key mapping for Windows?
>> On Sep 20, 2011, at 1:00 PM, Dean Wilcox wrote:
>>
>>> I haven't switched Option and Command like some people suggested as I
>>> wasn't sure what the Command Tab (Alt Tab in Windows) would then do. I am
>>> used to it and find I am able to go to another Windows machine and just use
>>> the keyboard normally and forget all about my changes or the differences
>>> when in Fussion which is handy. I use Sharp Keys to map a few keystrokes
>>> on my number pad for screen reader modifier keys, right mouse click etc.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 16 Sep 2011, at 11:00, Sean Murphy wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I have used the pass through and it doesn't resolve the problem. I
>>>> have found a solution Via VMWare keyboard profile. I have made VMWare
>>>> switch the option key with the command key. So VO doesn't over-ride the
>>>> keys being used in the guess os.
>>>>
>>>> What I am using the keys for isn't really relevant. the real issue here is
>>>> how Voice-Over is very aggressive in its way of handling keystrokes.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The point I am complaining about and have lodge a bug against Voice_over.
>>>> Is when you are in a Guess OS regardless of the OS inside the VMWare
>>>> software. Once keyboard has been passed to the guess OS. Voice-over should
>>>> not intercept the keystrokes. When you want to use Voice-over again, then
>>>> you use the application short cut key to return control. This is all based
>>>> upon when you are using the VMWare single window or in the full screen
>>>> mode or in the Unity mode.
>>>>
>>>> To re-enforce what I said previously. If you are using the VMWare app and
>>>> need to make a change. Then use alt (option) + control to return control
>>>> back to the Apple OS. Then VO has its control back and you can do what you
>>>> need. But while you are in the guess OS. The Host OS should not intercept
>>>> the keys used within the guess OS. This removes all the messing around you
>>>> have to do with keyboard remapping. Be aware, that VMWare does have a tab
>>>> to turn off global MAC keystrokes such as cmd tab.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sean
>>>> On 15/09/2011, at 12:11 AM, Cheryl Ann Homiak wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Have you tried the passthrough? If you want to do a key combination that
>>>>> belongs to voiceover but for something else instead, you do
>>>>> ctrl-option-tab before that keypress.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, you didn't say what you need ctrl-option for in vmware. I know at
>>>>> least in windows xp that you can change shortcut keys that are being used
>>>>> so if you are needing ctrl-option for your screenreader, that can be
>>>>> changed.
>>>>>
>>>>> You should also keep in mind that there are times when you do want
>>>>> voiceover in the vmware window to navigate in some dialogs of vmware
>>>>> itself rather than the particular operating system you are running so
>>>>> this has nothing to do with voiceover being "aggressive". It is in vmware
>>>>> or in your guest operating system that you need to make a change in key
>>>>> assignments.
>>>>>
>>>>> I will warn, however, that at least in my linux vmware installation I
>>>>> sometimes have a problem with my right arrow key (not in conjunction with
>>>>> voiceover but by itself) not working and I sometimes have to turn
>>>>> voiceover on and off to solve this. I suspect there's a solution for this
>>>>> but haven't bothered to work on it so far but just thought I'd warn you
>>>>> in case that happens.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Cheryl
>>>>>
>>>>> May the words of my mouth
>>>>> and the meditation of my heart
>>>>> be acceptable to You,
>>>>> Lord, my rock and my Redeemer.
>>>>> (Psalm 19:14, HCSB)
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