[macvoiceover] Re: VMware again another issue.
- From: Sean Murphy <smur7241@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 00:25:45 +1000
HI,
I think a how to guide needs to be developed for VMWare Fusion. If I get time
on my holidays. I will put a rough draft together and post it here.
Sean
On 21/09/2011, at 6:01 AM, VaShaun Jones wrote:
> OK, can someone direct me to a list of VM Wear keystrokes that I can use. I
> remember Command G to grab focus but that seems to no longer work. I have a
> Bootcamp partition that I'm trying to use but I don't know how to access it
> and hear JAWS. Also how do I find out about key mapping for Windows?
> On Sep 20, 2011, at 1:00 PM, Dean Wilcox wrote:
>
>> I haven't switched Option and Command like some people suggested as I wasn't
>> sure what the Command Tab (Alt Tab in Windows) would then do. I am used to
>> it and find I am able to go to another Windows machine and just use the
>> keyboard normally and forget all about my changes or the differences when in
>> Fussion which is handy. I use Sharp Keys to map a few keystrokes on my
>> number pad for screen reader modifier keys, right mouse click etc.
>>
>>
>> On 16 Sep 2011, at 11:00, Sean Murphy wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Yes, I have used the pass through and it doesn't resolve the problem. I
>>> have found a solution Via VMWare keyboard profile. I have made VMWare
>>> switch the option key with the command key. So VO doesn't over-ride the
>>> keys being used in the guess os.
>>>
>>> What I am using the keys for isn't really relevant. the real issue here is
>>> how Voice-Over is very aggressive in its way of handling keystrokes.
>>>
>>>
>>> The point I am complaining about and have lodge a bug against Voice_over.
>>> Is when you are in a Guess OS regardless of the OS inside the VMWare
>>> software. Once keyboard has been passed to the guess OS. Voice-over should
>>> not intercept the keystrokes. When you want to use Voice-over again, then
>>> you use the application short cut key to return control. This is all based
>>> upon when you are using the VMWare single window or in the full screen mode
>>> or in the Unity mode.
>>>
>>> To re-enforce what I said previously. If you are using the VMWare app and
>>> need to make a change. Then use alt (option) + control to return control
>>> back to the Apple OS. Then VO has its control back and you can do what you
>>> need. But while you are in the guess OS. The Host OS should not intercept
>>> the keys used within the guess OS. This removes all the messing around you
>>> have to do with keyboard remapping. Be aware, that VMWare does have a tab
>>> to turn off global MAC keystrokes such as cmd tab.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sean
>>> On 15/09/2011, at 12:11 AM, Cheryl Ann Homiak wrote:
>>>
>>>> Have you tried the passthrough? If you want to do a key combination that
>>>> belongs to voiceover but for something else instead, you do
>>>> ctrl-option-tab before that keypress.
>>>>
>>>> Also, you didn't say what you need ctrl-option for in vmware. I know at
>>>> least in windows xp that you can change shortcut keys that are being used
>>>> so if you are needing ctrl-option for your screenreader, that can be
>>>> changed.
>>>>
>>>> You should also keep in mind that there are times when you do want
>>>> voiceover in the vmware window to navigate in some dialogs of vmware
>>>> itself rather than the particular operating system you are running so this
>>>> has nothing to do with voiceover being "aggressive". It is in vmware or in
>>>> your guest operating system that you need to make a change in key
>>>> assignments.
>>>>
>>>> I will warn, however, that at least in my linux vmware installation I
>>>> sometimes have a problem with my right arrow key (not in conjunction with
>>>> voiceover but by itself) not working and I sometimes have to turn
>>>> voiceover on and off to solve this. I suspect there's a solution for this
>>>> but haven't bothered to work on it so far but just thought I'd warn you in
>>>> case that happens.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Cheryl
>>>>
>>>> May the words of my mouth
>>>> and the meditation of my heart
>>>> be acceptable to You,
>>>> Lord, my rock and my Redeemer.
>>>> (Psalm 19:14, HCSB)
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