Hi Sara, To make this a bit more clear, although VoiceOver is called a "screen reader" it is actually an interface beuilt directly into the Mac. Like many pieces of the Mac os it can be toggled and yes, if you toggle it on during installation, you can perform the entire process without a screen or a mouse although you may need one to be connected depending on the computer you are installing on. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sara" <push649@xxxxxxx> To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 10:09 AM Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Snow Leopard and the future of accessibility Wait a second... Are you saying that pre-release versions talk, and can be installed with speech running? This is so different from the windows world where you have to wait for screen-readers! Sara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Travis Siegel" <windowbridge@xxxxxxx> To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 10:06 PM Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Snow Leopard and the future of accessibility >I have an adc select membership. > Discussion of pre-release software is not permitted, so the best I could > say is yes it's better, or things like this app works better, and that > one hasn't changed, things like that, can't really give specifics. > However, anyone is able to buy an adc membership, and install the os > themselves. > >> >> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >> >> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. >> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >> >> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >> > > Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > > Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. > //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web > interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > > Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > > Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. > //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web > interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >