[macvoiceover] Re: Shiira

Ok Ron,

Here are a couple of things that I have found to be key.
In Shiira under preferences, under tabs, inable tab browsing should be checked. 

Select new tabs as they are created, should be checked.
command-right bracket and left bracket moves faward and backward through tabs, this is handy when websites open in a new tab, .
Another querke with Shiira is that. Option-tab and option-back tab moves between links .
Give that a try and see if that helps. I really like this browser much more than Safari and it seems to work with more sites. 

Group items in web pages.
This will for the most part read an intire item like a weather forecast with out using the arrow keys to move through it. If you find an item you want to check out in detale, inter act with it with the control-option-shift-down arrow keys. If you want to go to an item, use the item, chooser menu control-option-i and start typeing in the name. 

Keith
On Apr 5, 2007, at 4:38 PM, Ron J. wrote:


Hey Keith,
Perhaps, if it wouldn't be too much trouble, you could give me a rundown on how you have Shiiara configured to work best with VO?
I do have that checkbox checked in the VO utility, but Shiira doesn't seem to behave like Safari - that is, speak the first thing that the VO cursor lands on when the new web page loads.
Also, what is the advantage to grouping itens in a web page, as opposed to not doing that? I currently don't do that, but that document, "Using Mac Apps with VoiceOver", seemed to suggest setting VO up that way.
If anyone else wants to chime in, with suggestions as to optimizing Shiiara to work best with VO, please do! Shiira is faster, and does seem to be "busy" a lot less than Safari, and those things, alone, make it worth using more often! 

Again, thanks!

Ron

On Apr 5, 2007, at 1:10 PM, Keith Reedy wrote:


Ron,
I am having no trouble with Voiceover cursor moving to a newly loaded webpage with Shiira.
Make sure that you have Voiceover cursor moves to newly loaded webpage checked in the navagation tab in the Voiceover, pannel, control-option-f8. 

And remember Shiira uses tabs to a greater extent than Safari does.

Maybe this will be of some help.

Keith


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