Ron, thank you very much. That is just what I needed. Frank From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ron J. Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 12:23 PM To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Leopard MP3s and PDFs HI Frank! The list, which Greg maintains is the VoiceOver Compatibility List ( <http://w3.wmcnet.org/vo/index.php> http://w3.wmcnet.org/vo/index.php). This list provides a link to the developer's site, what category the application falls under (i.e. System/Utility), a "VoiceOver Score" (1 being least accessible, 3 being somewhere in the middle, and 5 being fully accessible), A description of the application, and tips & tricks for using the program with VO, if any are needed. Also, you can add info for any apps you find, which the VO community might find of interest, and/or, useful. I'd actually contemplated just such a database, shortly after VO came out, but lacked the web programming skills to make it a reality! Greg has done a superb job creating and maintaining this list, however, so Hats Off to him, on a job well done! I've even contributed a few apps to it, myself! Enjoy! Ron On Jun 24, 2008, at 11:28 AM, Travis Siegel wrote: Use the tiger files. Leopard added a lot of features to the os, but for the most part (with a few exceptions) voiceover itself hasn't changed all that much, so what was valid in tiger will still be valid in leopard. There are some notable changes such as braille support, and the numpad commander, but for the most part, you won't have any trouble using what is taught for tiger with the leopard os. Also, there are a couple places to find lists of programs compatible with voiceover. One (not updated recently though I plan to fix that) is at http://www.softcon.com/mac In there, you'll find a list of programs compatible with voiceover. Greg Kearney maintains a list as well, and his is both more complete, and more up to date, but unfortunately, I don't have the url handy at the moment, perhaps Greg or someone else can post it. And, I know there are a few other lists scattered around here and there, that offer similar information. Click on the link below to go to our homepage. http://www.icanworkthisthing.com Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. http://www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Webinterface at http://www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover Ron J. | AKA Ganahee Messenger Services: AIM: Ganahee MSN: Ganahee@xxxxxxxxxxx Skype: Ganahee Twitter: Ganahee_SD Yahoo!: Ganahee Alternate Contact: E-Mail: Ganahee@xxxxxxxxx Phone: 605-759-0694 "For millions of years, mankind lived, just like the animals. Then something happened, which unleashed the power of our imagination - we learned to talk." From the MD "The Division Bell", the track "Keep Talking".