David, That was really cute, I like that a lot, smile. Keith On Nov 6, 2007, at 12:15 PM, David Poehlman wrote:
*any*thing* *which* *is* *in* *the* *vo* *cursor* is *underlined* *with* *dots* *7* *and* *8.* What is not in the vo cursor is not underlined withdots 7 and 8. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John W. Hess" <johnythehess@xxxxxxxxx> To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 5:30 PM Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Braille within Leopard is it any Good.I'll give that a try. sounds like there should be a feature though to turn off the underline because when I was reading a page on the Internet since the vo curser was moving with the display lot's of stuff was underlined.----- Original Message ----- From: "David Poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 6:56 PM Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Braille within Leopard is it any Good.Actually, what is on the display and in the vo cursor is underlined. If nothing on the display is in the vo cursor, nothing will have dots 7 and 8 attached to it unless there is another reason for it. If only part of what is on the display is in the vo cursor, that part will be underlined. Try it with the vo manual when you can, fire it up in preview the pdf version that is, start panning with the braille display and immediately,nothing is in the vo cursor. On Nov 3, 2007, at 7:26 PM, John W. Hess wrote:so are you saying that when the display is in the same place as the vo curser it will underline but once past that point the underline will goaway? On Nov 3, 2007, at 10:33 AM, David Poehlman wrote:not everything is underlined, that which is underlind is in the vocursor. There is only one way I know of to circumvent this and that isthrough panning. On Nov 3, 2007, at 10:16 AM, John W. Hess wrote:Here's a question for those using leopard with Braille. I connected a humanware Brailliant to the mac and it worked quite well. Problem,when trying to read I noticed everything looked like it was underlined. I am gathering this is because it is following thevoiceover curser. How do I stop it from doing this. It's a great feature and the fact that the connection is literally instantainiousis amazing. On Nov 3, 2007, at 7:59 AM, David Poehlman wrote:I use two braille displays and the braille support is quite good. One of the things we have talked about is how in mac os, when editing a document, it is hard to explain how the cursor works, braille shows this quite well with a cursor that spans two cells. You have to seeit to appreciate it or touch it as the case may bee. On Nov 3, 2007, at 5:28 AM, James Gallagher wrote:hello all has any one got Leopard running on a Braille display.if so is it accessible and can we access must of all the softwarewithin Leopard. I can't use voice over myself so full well as good as we can get Braille access within Leopard is it OK ? I am very eager to learn more about this Please. all the very best Yours James The highest result of education is tolerance. 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