[macvoiceover] Re: Apple Announces iPhone OS 4.0 Event for 08/April/2010-- The Mac-cessibility Network - News [Lioncourt.com]
- From: Nicole Hutchins <nkhutch86@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 18:29:26 -0400
LOL, well you catch my drift, right?
I could only use Jaws since it's the only other screen reader I've used and you
put it as an example, anyways :). No disrespect to the others, though.
Nicole
On Apr 7, 2010, at 5:01 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Lol. The Jaws example was just that. An example. You can insert whatever
> screenreader into the blank you wish. :)
> On Apr 7, 2010, at 4:43 PM, Nicole Hutchins wrote:
>
>> I have to somewhat agree with you.
>> I only disagree where Jaws is related since I'm an ex user of the product
>> and I can speak from experience that there are just too many things I
>> couldn't do with Jaws that I can do with Apple's screen reader. But yes, if
>> something better came along, I'd definitely be willing to explore my options
>> there.
>>
>> Nicole
>> On Apr 7, 2010, at 4:22 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I agree entirely. I think Apple has done great things regarding
>>> accessibility but, when you pledge lifetime loyalty to a company I think
>>> you are doing yourself a disservice. There will come a time where a
>>> company will just do something that will make the use of their product less
>>> justifiable or, something better will just come a long. If you just stick
>>> with them because of their name they won't work as hard for you. For
>>> example, If HP said all there notebooks would come with a screenreader like
>>> Jaws or windows eyes, and you get upgrades for the life of your PC, I think
>>> most sensible blind people would have to at least explore the option. If
>>> you like something buy all means it is your right to scream it from the
>>> mountain tops but, it can sometimes work against you as far as credibility.
>>> If I hear someone say I buy a certain brand no matter what, I instantly
>>> devalue there opinion on said product or brand.
>>> On Apr 7, 2010, at 3:45 PM, Ignasi Cambra wrote:
>>>
>>>> For example, none of apple's computers these days come with BluRay. I
>>>> don't need BluRay technology at this point so don't care, but everyone
>>>> else is making computers that have it. We can go on and on about things
>>>> that Apple doesn't give to their users. As of now, their products work
>>>> really great for me and I love them. But there is no reason for me not to
>>>> switch to something else in the future if I like it better, or is more
>>>> efficient.
>>>> On Apr 7, 2010, at 2:43 PM, Olivia Norman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> LOL! I do kind of worship apple, but I have a hard time wondering what
>>>>> products could be better than apple's for a variety of reasons, ease of
>>>>> use, accessibility, design, etc. I could go on, but will refrain!
>>>>> Olivia
>>>>> On Apr 7, 2010, at 2:30 PM, Ignasi Cambra wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The thing is that some people find it cool to show that they are using
>>>>>> an Iphone, a BlackBerry or whatever. Some people just don't care. I
>>>>>> personally use Apple stuff all day because they help me to be productive
>>>>>> and they do everything I want them to do. But it has already been
>>>>>> mentioned before on this list that Apple is doing things that are not
>>>>>> all that good, particularly regarding patents. We can't forget that
>>>>>> accessibility should be a right for us, and not something that we should
>>>>>> be surprised to find right out of the box. Off course it's great that
>>>>>> Apple decided to implement VO on all their devices, but honestly if
>>>>>> something that I consider better comes out, I will consider switching. I
>>>>>> will not stick to Apple just because it's Apple. It just doesn't make
>>>>>> any sense to me to warship a company like that.
>>>>>> On Apr 6, 2010, at 3:24 PM, Bryan Smart wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeh, but if they're using peoples' e-mail to advertise, they should be
>>>>>>> paying for that privledge.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What-ever. No one there cares what I think about stuff like this,
>>>>>>> anyway. *smile* I have seen Blackberrys do this, and I think that it is
>>>>>>> just as lame. If I'm sending e-mail from a free mail account, then they
>>>>>>> can advertise in my mail, since they're providing the mail free as an
>>>>>>> ad supported service. I suppose I just think that Apple stuff should be
>>>>>>> a little more classy than that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bryan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> [mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Olivia Norman
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 8:56 AM
>>>>>>> To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Apple Announces iPhone OS 4.0 Event for
>>>>>>> 08/April/2010-- The Mac-cessibility Network - News [Lioncourt.com]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well. Cell companies do it, too. They'll say sent from my verizon
>>>>>>> wireless blackberry, or sent from blackberry by AT&T. Marketing, I
>>>>>>> guess. I kind of like the word to know I use apple products, so it's
>>>>>>> Alright with me :) Sent from the future
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Apr 6, 2010, at 8:52 AM, Bryan Smart wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Coincidentally, why do iPhones and iPads always throw that "Sent from
>>>>>>>> my iPhone/iPad" remark in there? I could write "Sent from my Nokia
>>>>>>>> E71", or "Sent from my MacBook Pro"., but who cares what device I'm
>>>>>>>> reading mail with?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think its shameless and very noobish for Apple to put that in there
>>>>>>>> by default. Be prepared to see posts all the time with "Sent from my
>>>>>>>> iPad". I think that it will soon become a kind of kick me sign.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bryan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sent from my MacBook, with Microsoft Outlook, over Charter Internet.
>>>>>>>> lol
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> [mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Olivia Norman
>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 4:39 PM
>>>>>>>> To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: [macvoiceover] Apple Announces iPhone OS
>>>>>>>> 4.0 Event for 08/April/2010-- The Mac-cessibility Network - News
>>>>>>>> [Lioncourt.com]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Another piece of technology I. Will want!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Apr 5, 2010, at 3:50 PM, Russell Solowoniuk <rsolowoniuk@xxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <http://www.lioncourt.com/2010/04/05/apple-announces-iphone-os-4-0-eve
>>>>>>>> nt-for-08april2010/>
>>>>>>>> http://www.lioncourt.com/2010/04/05/apple-announces-iphone-os-4-0-even
>>>>>>>> t-for-08april2010/
>>>>>>>>
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