[macvoiceover] Re: A quick look at Numbers.
- From: Keith Reedy <keithreedy@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 13:35:46 -0500
Ian,
I had hoped that this would be an answer for you, but, I can see that you may
very well need a database, however I don't know of any. Although Filemaker may
be an answer I don't think that it is very accessible.
You may want to take a look at LibreOffice, or, OpenOffice which both have a
database function again I don't think the accessibility is there.
You may want to try making smaller databases for shorter periods of time.
Good luck my friend.
We are Braille Bible printers,
http://biblesfortheblind.org
Keith Reedy
keithreedy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
On Jan 23, 2014, at 11:51 AM, Ian Edwards <ianedwards42@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Thanks Keith, good prmer, people just getting into spreadsheets should pay
> attention to it and follow the steps, save yourself some head scratching.
>
> An advantage to Numbers with Voiceover is that the headers are read out as
> you arrow through. So for example if you’re 30 or 40 rows deep and 20 columns
> over you don’t have to remember which record you’re on. I’ve had some issues
> converting rows and columns into headers when I added them later, mostly this
> was from inattention.
>
> On the issue of a spreadsheet vs. a true database, most people switch to a
> database once the spreadsheet becomes unweildy. For example, my volunteer
> hours tracking spreadsheet for the renovation phase of our cafe opening had
> about 90 columns for dates, and 70 rows for volunteer name. I then had to
> create formulas to add up the numbers, and if I wanted to find out if Steve
> worked on August 23, I would have to arrow down to his row, then arrow over
> to August 23 and read if there was a number there for how many hours I logged
> for him. Voiceover reads out the dates as I go, because I put them in a
> header row.
>
> In a database, the information from the table is presented differently. To
> use my previous example, Steve would have a record that presents all the
> information in his row in a usable form. Like Steve’s contact information,
> and than a list of the days he worked and his total hours. Basically it
> leaves out all the blanks that you would have to arrow through. If you set it
> up right, you can also have the database report on another variable, like the
> record of each date or event. So instead of scrolling through my Evernote
> list of the people who came to the volunteer appreciation party, I would ask
> the database for everyone who had that date or event associated with their
> record.
>
> This isn’t an issue for small amounts of data, I decided that for the 90 or
> so dates and the 70 or so volunteers, and the types of information I would
> need to query, as long as I had the total hours a volunteer worked being
> calculated automatically, it was no big deal to scroll around with the arrow
> keys. I’m right at the threshold of the data becoming unweildy, as we’ve
> added in another 40 or so volunteers, and now would like to include on their
> record whether or not they were part of the renovation crew, what shifts they
> are available for etc. This is the threshold for whether or not I learn and
> build a database or stick with a spreadsheet. Bento was looking good for
> this, but it went away. I’m actually glad I’m not on Windows anymore, as I
> would be tempted to go back to Microsoft Access, which is a beast. So now I’m
> looking for a simple accessible database.
>
> Cheers, hope this laying out of thoughts was helpful.
>
> Ian
>
> On Jan 23, 2014, at 8:43 AM, Keith Reedy <wa9dro@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Ian and others,
>>
>> This is old, but, as far as I know it still works mostly this way,
>> SNIP!
>>
>> I am going to give this a shot. Try to use the information I supply to do
>> what you want to do with numbers. I am not good at spread sheets, but, here
>> goes.
>>
>> The thing I do most with numbers is to create databases.
>>
>> When you open numbers it opens to a layout area, interact twice. Now you
>> can move through these cells with just the arrowkeys.
>> Row 1 along the top is the header cells which allow you to name the columns.
>>
>> Column 1 will allow you to name the rows.
>>
>> Column 1 row 1 I mite put name of food
>>
>> column 2 row 1 how do you like it.
>> column 3 row 1 I would put how much do you want.
>>
>> Now, lets go back to column 1 row 1 and downarrow once to row 2 just under
>> kind of food and I would put bacon.
>>
>> arrow once to the right and you will hear, bacon how do you like it and I
>> would start typing fried.
>>
>> arrow once again to the right and you will hear, bacon how much do you want
>> and I would start typing, lots
>>
>> Now, you can go back to column 1 and arrow down once to the next row and
>> type the name of another food, lets say stake and arrow once to the right
>> and it will say stake and ask how do you like it and again and it will say
>> stake and ask you how much and so on
>>
>> Each layout area will have 13 columns and 45 rows and if that is not enough,
>> you can add what you need.
>>
>> I hope that this will be of some help to you folks.
>>
>> Keith Reedy.Click the link below to download MP3's of Keith Reedy's music as
>> a gift from Bibles For The Blind.
>>
>> http://biblesfortheblind.org/download_music.shtml
>>
>> God gives His best to those who leave the choice with Him. J Hudson Taylor.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Click on the link below to go to our homepage.
>>> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com
>>>
>>> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below.
>>> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover
>>>
>>> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to
>>> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web
>>> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover
>>>
>>>
>>> Click on the link below to go to our homepage.
>>> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com
>>>
>>> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below.
>>> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover
>>>
>>> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to
>>> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web
>>> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover
>>>
>
>>
>> Click on the link below to go to our homepage.
>> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com
>>
>> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below.
>> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover
>>
>> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to
>> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web
>> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover
>>
>
> Click on the link below to go to our homepage.
> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com
>
> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below.
> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover
>
> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to
> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web
> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover
>
Other related posts:
