[macvoiceover] Re: A discussion on navigation, content and web pages
- From: "David Poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:02:40 -0500
but skip links don't work for vo. I'd like to see vo implement divs.
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From: "Rich Caloggero" <rjc@xxxxxxx>
To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 3:08 PM
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: A discussion on navigation, content and web
pages
Two other possibilities for dealing with navigation are as follows.
1. Design pages which use html heading markup to clearly denote
sections/subsections. Imagine we have two divs: content and navigation. By
convention we can always place an h1 tag as the first child of the content
div. This shall, by convention, always contain a page title (text or
graphic), and by convention should be the only h1 on the page. If
subsections are needed, either within nav or content, start with h2. This
would then serve to delimit the nav section from the content, and a screen
reader capable of navigating by heading could then allow the use to skip
over the nav section with one keystroke.
Note that voiceOver does allow heading navigation in Leopard, but not in
Tiger. The other thing to note is that while heading navigation is
possible, it could be made more effective if commands for moving to headings
of a given level were added. For instance, vo+command+1 to move to the next
heading level 1, etc. Now, in our example above, we could move to the
beginning of the content by doing vo+command+1 (move to first h1).
2. I feel the above solution is the best, since it requires little work,
and forces the developer to think about semantics, separation of structure
from presentation, and good information design. However, one could also use
CSS to force the nav to appear after the content. This would then allow the
screen reader user to find the start of the content by going to the top of
the page. You could provide a skip link to skip to the start of the
navigation.
Just my two cents.
-- Rich
----- Original Message -----
From: "Greg Kearney" <gkearney@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by
the blind" <discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "macvoiceover"
<macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Andrew Furlong"
<Andrew.Furlong@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Iain Murray"
<i.murray@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <elise@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 1:31 PM
Subject: [macvoiceover] A discussion on navigation, content and web pages
>I have a done a short segment on the topic of navigation, content and web
>pages which can be found at: http://cucat.org/projects/navigation/
>
> Greg Kearney
> 535 S. Jackson St.
> Casper, Wyoming 82601
> 307-224-4022
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