While what you suggest will work for screen reader user the visual reader is still faced with sifting through navigation to get to content. How did we ever get to a state where navigation became the dominate visual item on the page and not the content?
Greg Kearney 535 S. Jackson St. Casper, Wyoming 82601 307-224-4022 gkearney@xxxxxxxxx On Feb 22, 2008, at 1:08 PM, Rich Caloggero wrote:
Two other possibilities for dealing with navigation are as follows.1. Design pages which use html heading markup to clearly denote sections/subsections. Imagine we have two divs: content and navigation. By convention we can always place an h1 tag as the first child of the content div. This shall, by convention, always contain a page title (text or graphic), and by convention should be the only h1 on the page. If subsections are needed, either within nav or content, start with h2. This would then serve to delimit the nav section from the content, and a screen reader capable of navigating by heading could then allow the use to skip over the nav section with one keystroke. Note that voiceOver does allow heading navigation in Leopard, but not in Tiger. The other thing to note is that while heading navigation is possible, it could be made more effective if commands for moving to headings of a given level were added. For instance, vo +command+1 to move to the next heading level 1, etc. Now, in our example above, we could move to the beginning of the content by doing vo+command+1 (move to first h1).2. I feel the above solution is the best, since it requires little work, and forces the developer to think about semantics, separation of structure from presentation, and good information design. However, one could also use CSS to force the nav to appear after the content. This would then allow the screen reader user to find the start of the content by going to the top of the page. You could provide a skip link to skip to the start of the navigation.Just my two cents. -- Rich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Kearney" <gkearney@xxxxxxxxx>To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by the blind" <discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "macvoiceover" <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >; "Andrew Furlong" <Andrew.Furlong@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Iain Murray" <i.murray@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <elise@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 1:31 PMSubject: [macvoiceover] A discussion on navigation, content and web pagesI have a done a short segment on the topic of navigation, content and web pages which can be found at: http://cucat.org/projects/navigation/Greg Kearney 535 S. Jackson St. Casper, Wyoming 82601 307-224-4022 gkearney@xxxxxxxxxClick on the link below to go to our homepage. http://www.icanworkthisthing.comManage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below.//www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxwith 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceoverClick on the link below to go to our homepage. http://www.icanworkthisthing.comManage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below.//www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxwith 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover
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