[mac4theblind] Re: Using an iPad
- From: "Bubba" <bubbathegeek@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 16:52:25 -0400
You can copy and paste on all the IOS devices. I like doing it from the BT
keyboard. When I do do it but you can do it on the device as well. You have
to be in some kind of edit field and turn the rotorey to edit and choose
select and then do that pinch thing to choose the text to select it and then
turn the rotary to edit a again and then flick up and choose copy and then
go to whatever you want to copy it to as long as it is in a edit field and
paste it in the edit field. Here again you have to use that rotary. But the
BT keyboard takes this away. The key is that you have to select copy and
paste in a edit field. So it is somewhat limited. JST
Sign,
Bubba
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From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eric SS
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 4:08 PM
To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: Using an ipad
Ben, I have been using a Touch for a year and now an IPhone the past six
months, so a total of a year and a half.
Trust me, you get used to the swiping and other motions fairly quickly.
There are only a half dozen or so, so far fewer to remember than the 101
keys on a keyboard. You learn fairly quickly too that applications
(programs) are laid out in very similar ways, so that the escape or affirm
are generally at the top and menu commands at the bottom no matter if you
are doing a mapping program or music. Also, there are thousands and
thousands of apps out there that are mostly free, but can cost up to $20,
but that is still hundreds less than many programs you would pay for Windows
equivalents.
I am mostly an information consumer. I read my NFB news papers and web
sites, plus dozens of news feeds in RSS. I use it a lot for radio stations
and some for podcasts. I send and receive quite a few text messages everyday
and post and check Facebook and Twitter news. My life is on there, i.e., my
contacts and calendar.
The one place I still have trouble is inputting. I have a couple of
keyboards ranging from standard desktop size to a credit card size bluetooth
device and I use the on-screen keyboard. I just recently picked up a screen
protector with some dots on it, such as at the location of the F and J keys
when you have a keyboard on screen. They have a version of that with dots on
every key on the keyboard, but I felt that may be overkill.
Entering text is not the whole problem, but editing is a bit touchy, even
for sighted folks. You can move through text by letter, word, line, header,
etc., but for instance you cannot cut a word or so out of an E-mail and
paste it into a text message. I am not sure I would feel confident using
this for a note taker for classes, etc., but then again if I had to use it
and got used to it all these things may seem insignificant.
I really feel if you are going to carry a device for your calendar and for
reading and to make calls, why bother with three separate pieces and just
have one. I have told people this way: there are Swiss Army knives that can
do many things and for most people nothing more is needed. Unless you are
going to build a house, and then you need more durable and specialized
tools. I am not a carpenter in my daily life, so I choose to carry one
knife.
I hope this helps some. I don't think you would regret the decision. I might
advise if you are unsure you can find used Touch or Phones. They would work
fine with just WIFI. The camera on the phone and new touch can be quite
useful, though, so if I had my choice I would definitely at least get
something with a camera.
The best!
Eric
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From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Benjamin Blatter
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 3:33 PM
To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [mac4theblind] Using an ipad
Hi to all
Today, I went to an apple store and held an ipad in my hands for the first
time. Amazing, it's much thinner than I thought. The guy there activated
voice over.
However I found it rather difficult to do things with all this touching and
wiping. Most of all locating some things on the plain glass screen. And some
funny things happened like the ipod suddenly playing music ...
Maybe I was shy or it was just an unlucky start for me. but anyway, I'm
wondering if you guys are really using an ipad or ipod touch for your daily
life? I read somewhere about a company which makes some tactile overlays for
blind people. Are you using something like that or are you really just
getting fine by figure out and memorizing all the spots on the glass screen?
I'm actually looking for a portable organizer. So I thought an ipad might be
an interesting solution since you could look at your appointmens sort of
like reading them in braille ... Do you guys organize your things this way?
And is there a certain braille display you would reccommend to use with
these devices?
Kind regards
Ben
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