[mac4theblind] Re: Using an iPad

…and I'm saying you need to change your thought because it is incorrect.  There 
is a lot that an ipad can do for a blin person especially with some apps.  In 
fact, there are some apps that a blind person can use and many do that will not 
run on an ipad.

I'm not concerned with the disagreement, but with a mature factual dialog.

On Aug 26, 2011, at 9:11 AM, Bubba wrote:

Yes, that is my thought and still did not say a blind person could not use
it or get a benefit out of it. This is still my thought as it does not do
much more for blind person then the iPhone or iPod touch. It is different
for a low vision person or visual person. This is my thought on the subject
and will not post any more on the disagreement on list as not to clog the
list . JMT 


Sign,
Bubba
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-----Original Message-----
From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Hilbert
Poehlman
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 9:04 AM
To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: Using an iPad

You said:
for a totally blind person there is really not a reason other
than looking cool and to just to say I have one.
It is in your message below if you want to double check it.  Not to drag you
down but I had to flag the false statements.

On Aug 26, 2011, at 8:52 AM, Bubba wrote:

Never said that a blind person could not enjoy a iPad. I said myself rather
have a smaller device. This is my preface ! I said that I think that a low
vision person would get more out of it than a blind person just like a
visual person would get more out of it.  Or for that fact any device a low
vision or seeing person would get more out of a device than the blind if
they used it to its full potential! So there is nothing to not be true or
false in my statement. It is a JMT only. 


Sign,
Bubba
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-----Original Message-----
From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Hilbert
Poehlman
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 5:28 PM
To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: Using an iPad

This is flat not true.  There are many people who are blind enjoying their
ipads and if I coul have one, I'd be one of them.  In a lot of ways, it's
much more productive to use than the smaller devices.

On Aug 25, 2011, at 4:42 PM, Bubba wrote:

Well, like I say I have the iPad but got it mostly for my wife and use it
myself and no for a totally blind person there is really not a reason other
than looking cool and to just to say I have one. Now for low vision people
this would be a plus. JMT 


Sign,
Bubba
bubbathegeek@xxxxxxxxx


-----Original Message-----
From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eric SS
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 4:12 PM
To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: Using an ipad

John, I have never used a Pad. I am not sure if you have used a Touch or
Phone much.

I wonder for those of us without any useable sight, is there any reason to
choose the IPad. It seems to me it only adds bulk.

I guess there are some apps for the IPad not available to the Phone/Touch,
but they seem to be few.

Thanks for your comments on why one might choose one or the other.

Eric


-----Original Message-----
From: mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:mac4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Panarese
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 3:51 PM
To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [mac4theblind] Re: Using an ipad

  To be honest, you can't really make an assessment in one sitting as far
as an iPad or iPhone or iPod Touch.  The whole touch interface is something
that takes a little getting used to.  It's actually far easier and intuitive
than one might think.

 I use an iPad daily, and it's just a fantastic device.  There really is
not a matter of finding things specifically on the screen.  I don't really
know why anyone would use any tactile overlays.  To me, personally, that
would just be confusing.  The screen is effected by what you have open or
what you are doing.  You need only slide a finger across and up and down the
screen to get a visual representation of what is being shown.  Additionally,
there are certain formats or patterns that you will get used to, like
looking at the Settings categories and examining the individual options.

 I don't use a Braille display with my iPad, so I can't really speak with
any knowledge on this.  However, I know you can connect one via the
bluetooth feature.  I might try this with my BrailleNote at some point, but
for me, it hasn't been something I've found myself needing to do.

  Overall, though, I would certainly consider the iPad an option for you.
Again, don't let that initial reaction cloud your decision.


Take Care

John D. Panarese
Director
Mac for the Blind
john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
http://www.macfortheblind.com

AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT



On Aug 25, 2011, at 3:33 PM, Benjamin Blatter wrote:

> Hi to all
> 
> Today, I went to an apple store and held an iPad in my hands for the 
> first time. Amazing, it's much thinner than I thought. The guy there 
> activated voice over.
> 
> However I found it rather difficult to do things with all this 
> touching and wiping. Most of all locating some things on the plain 
> glass screen. And some funny things happened like the iPod suddenly
playing music ...
> 
> Maybe I was shy or it was just an unlucky start for me. but anyway, 
> I'm wondering if you guys are really using an ipad or ipod touch for 
> your daily life? I read somewhere about a company which makes some 
> tactile overlays for blind people. Are you using something like that 
> or are you really just getting fine by figure out and memorizing all the
spots on the glass screen?
> 
> I'm actually looking for a portable organizer. So I thought an ipad 
> might be an interesting solution since you could look at your 
> appointmens sort of like reading them in braille ... Do you guys organize
your things this way?
> 
> And is there a certain braille display you would reccommend to use 
> with these devices?
> 
> Kind regards
> Ben
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